SELFRIDGE FAMILY MEMORIES

An Irish Scottish Cherokee Family in Derry Ireland, Tennessee, Texas, and Oklahoma


Including the Surnames
ABBE, ADAMS, ALLEN, AUTRY, BAKER, BEAUCHAMP, BLANKENSHIP, BOATWRIGHT, BURNETT, BYROM, CARDWELL, CATES, CATON, CELF, CHILDERS, CHURCHMAN, CRITES, DAVIS, DOBBS, DOWNEY, DURHAM, DURHAN, ELKINS, ELY, FELLOWS, GARMON, GILLELAND, GILLILAND, GIST, GORE, GORMAN, GRIFFITH, HALE, HARRIS, HOLDER, HURST, JOHNSON, LAWSON, LOCKHART, MANFREDI, MASEY, McDIVITT, MENEES, MONTGOMERY, MOORE, MORSE, PATTERSON, PARKER, PETERS, PETERSON, RAMER, REDIKER, ROBINSON, SCARBOROUGH, SELF, SELFRIDGE, SHIPMAN, SLATER, SLEDGE, SMITH, UPSHAW, VENATOR, VANMETER, VICTORY, WHELESS, WHITE, WILLIAMS, WRIGHT, YOUNG, YRONWODE


by catherine yronwode


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Dr. William S. "Barney" Selfridge, MD, from Ireland to Texas and Oklahoma

William S. Selfridge was born in Limavady, Derry County, Ireland. As best we can determine, his family was Presbyterian, and was part of the cultural group known in Great Britain as "Ulster Scots" and in America as "Scots-Irish" or "Scotch-Irish" -- people who had come to Ireland from Scotland as part of a colonization or "plantation" program established by King James I to help subdue Irish attempts at rebellion.

According to Sharon Baker, posting to the genforum site:

Dr. William Barney Selfridge's father was Thomas Patrick Selfridge 
(called "Patrick Selfridge" in some records), who was born 
in Ireland; his mother was Julia Rebecca McDivitt, born in 1810, 
in Derry, Ireland. 

Two of Dr. Barney's many descendants, La Wana Holder and Roberta Abbe, posted several messages about him to the rootsweb forum in 1997 and in the genweb forum in 2000 and 2001; i have edited these several posts into a chronology of Barney's life:

William S. Selfridge -- called "Barney" -- was born
April 4 1840 in Limavady, Derry County, Ireland. When he died on
February 1, 1912, his place of residence was Thackerville,
Oklahoma. According to his death certificate he died in
Norman, Oklahoma. He is buried in the Mayhair Cemetery,
Sasakwa, Seminole, Oklahoma.

His birthdate has been given as 4 April 1838 or 1840, but a
passenger list of the Envoy of the J & J Cooke line in 1847
to St John Newfoundland lists a passenger William Selfridge,
age 7. He was in the 1900 and 1910 census records, where it
was stated that he was born in 1840.

William [Barney] SELFRIDGE married Xantippe SLATER in Milam
Co., Texas. [They had 11 children, of whom 7 survived to
adulthood.] Xantippe died on the way to Indian Territory /
Oklahoma and is buried in Henderson County, Texas.

In the 1880 census of Henderson County Texas, William is listed as a
farmer. The Texas Medical Association and the AMA do not
list him as a member and he is not on their list of deceased
doctors in Texas. 

After the death of Xantippe, William [Barney] SELFRIDGE
became a medical doctor by profession and lived in the
Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory,  and in Thackerville,
Oklahoma.

It has been said that after Mary Xantippe died, William
Barney "deserted his family to live like a bunch of wild
animals while he went back to school to become a doctor" (as
one descendant put it) -- in any case, he was listed on the
physician's list of the Oklahoma Territories. He practiced
in the Chickasaw Nation, at the town of Lebanon, Oklahoma,
population 185. 

In the 1900 census he was listed as a doctor, but in the
1910 census he was listed as having no trade or profession,
probably because he was retired by then.

In the 1910 census, there was a notation in the upper right
hand corner -- "NR" -- under citizenship. It probably stands
for "Naturalized" citizen.

In 1910 the census showed him living with [his son Barney
Junior William Barnett Selfridge] in Oklahoma and he was age
71 at the time.

The same 1910 census also listed a Frank Selfridge who was born
July 1856 in Creek Nation and was a boarder of William
Moore. The Frank Selfridge who was born in 1856 is not with
our immediate bunch because William Barney Selfridge and
Mary Xantippe Slater did not get married until 1867. She was
15 and one of his students. He did a stint of teaching
school in Texas, according to some family stories.
[Frank Selfridge of 1856 was probably related; he may have been 
a nephew or illegitimate son of William S. Selfridge. --cat]

In the 1910 census there is also a James McDivitt Selfridge,
born October, 1877, enumerated in Chickasaw Nation, Indian
Territory, Woodville District, married to Lulu [?], born
March 1882 in Texas. They had a son Charles R. Selfridge,
born June 1899 in Indian Territory.

This James McDivitt Selfridge in the 1910 census was the son
of William Barney Selfridge and Mary Xantippe Slater
Selfridge, and had been born October 5, 1877 in Gonzales,
Texas. His middle name was a tribute to Barney's mother,
born Julia Rebecca McDivitt.

This info came from the census records of 1880, 1900, and
1910.


Xantippe Slater's Ancestors

The following research project began with a post to the genealogy forum at http://genforum.genealogy.com./selfridge in August, 2000:

My great-great-grandparents on my father's side are Doctor William S. Barney Selfridge, who was born April 4, 1838 in Derry, Ireland, died February 1, 1912, buried in Norman, OK, and his wife Mary Xantippi Slater, born in 1850 in Texas. i have encountered the spellings Mary Xantippe Slater and Mary Xantippy Slater for her on the webm as well as census transcription errors reading Kantippe Slater and Hanleppa Slater.
As anyone who researches genealogy knows, people do not always stick with their birth names, and variant spellings of first, middle, and last names get passed along until one branch of a family doesn't seem to be related to another. In this case, it is helpful to know that William Barney Selfridge seems to have always been called Barney in the family and that his wife, Mary Xantippe Slater, is widely known in the family to have been a Cherokee Indian and that variant forms of her name found in family records and on the web include Xantippe (without the "Mary" portion), Xantippi Slater (with an "i"), Mary Xantippy Slater (with a "y"), Mary Xantippie Slater (with an "ie") Mary Xantippi Slate (with an "i" and no "r" on Slater), Xanatippy Slate (!), and in one family book, Ann Slater, possibly an auditory corruption of Xan Tippy Slater. She was also enumerated in one online copy of a local census as "Hanleppa Slater" -- not the enumerator's fault, but that of the transcriber, no doubt. In the 1850 Federal Census record her name is transcribed as "Kantippe Slater" -- again, not the enumerator's fault, but the result of an error in reading his handwriting.

Because Xantippe (or Xantippi or Xantippy or Xanatippy or Xantippie or Tippie) is an unusual name for a Cherokee woman, this ancestor of the present-day Selfridge family is fairly easy to trace. The father of Xantippe Slater was Stephen Thomas Slater, who was born in 1821 in Tennessee (born January 31, 1815 according to some records) and died Nov. 2 1884 in Sharp, Texas. He was a full-blood Cherokee Indian (Native American), who was an Indian scout for Sam Houston in Texas. He also was a witness to the Tehuacana Creek Treaty between the Republic of Texas and the Comanches. We have been told by some that he was known among the Cherokee under the name Bull Neck Slater. According to a post made in 2001 by Roberta Abbe:

Stephen Slater was a full blood Cherokee Indian who served as
a scout for Sam Houston among other people. I have found pay
documents in the Texas Archives signed by Sam Houston. He
lived in Georgetown, Texas for a while and was deferred by
the draft during the Civil War because he was a loom maker.
He was married twice and had two families. He is buried
fairly close to where I live and I have been to his grave.
He has a marker and the cemetary is well kept.

Stephen Thomas Slater mother's name was Lavina (or Lavena). Lavina's original surname is unknown. At the age of 64 she was enumerated on the 1850 federal census in Milam County Texas (at http://www.geocities.com/milamco/milam-019.htm) She was living with her son and his family and was noted as having been born in Kentucky. Her date of birth was thus about 1786.

See the autobiography of Stephen Slater.

Stephen Thomas Slater's first wife -- the mother of Mary Xantippe Slater -- was Mary Gilleland, born in 23 Jan 1827 in Arkansas. The 1850 federal census of Milam County Texas enumerates 1 month old Xantippe without the first name Mary (this is the one tanscribed as "Kantippe"), and so does the 1856 school census in Milam County (the one where her online transcription reads "Hanleppa"). Because her mother died when she was about two years old, in 1852, it seems possible that the first name Mary was prefixed to Xantippe's name in memory of her mother sometime after she entered school in 1856.

Mary Gilleland was the daughter of Daniel Gilleland of Virginia and Precilla Boatwright of Illinois. They had married in 1819, in Arkansas, and that is where Mary was born. In 1821 the family moved to Texas, where they were some of the original settlers of Texas with Stephen F. Austin. See a genealogy of the Gilleland family of Texas, including the ancestors of Mary Gilleland Slater.

Stephen Thomas Slater and Mary Gilleland were married in November of 1845 in Montgomery Co. Texas.

Stephen Thomas Slater and Mary Gilleland Slater had four children:

Mary Gilleland Slater died in Texas on January 7, 1852 at 24 years of age, shortly after giving birth to her fourth child, Stephen D. Slater. (It is reasonable to assume that the D. stood for Daniel, her father's first name.) Mary was apparently of Irish and Scottish descent, yet her daughter with Stephen Slater -- Xantippe Slater -- is usually listed as a full-blood Cherokee in historical writings. This may be because Xantippe's mother died young and Xantippe was raised in Texas by her Cherokee father. It is also possible that Xantippe's mother, Mary Gilleland, although from a family that was stated to be "Anglo American" on the Texas state historical marker commemorating them, was actually part Native American (Cherokee and/or Choctaw). This theory is advanced below, in the Gilleland genealogy section:

See a genealogy of the Gilleland family of Texas, including the ancestors of Mary Gilleland Slater.

Stephen Thomas Slater eventually had eleven children, four from his first marriage and seven from his second marriage -- although three of those seven may have been his step-children, as will shortly be explained. All of his children were apparently considered to be full-blood Cherokees by those who knew them and by many who are descended from them. His second wife may have been a Cherokee woman, and this may account for all of his children being called Cherokee. His second wife's name is not known to me.


Stephen T. Slater: The Cherokee Connection

At allthingscherokee.com, Maronda Fuqua posted this query which contained more information about Xantippe Slater, according to her family's understanding:

Query: I am trying to find some info out about Xanatippy Slater. She was full Cherokee, and practiced medicine on the Red River, in the Lebanon and Oakland Territory / Oklahoma. I believe that her father was Stephen T. Slater (also went by Bull Neck Slater). He was in Milam Co. Texas, and was one of the first men to work for Sam Houston.

The following is the Autobiography of Stephen T. Slater, written when he was about 53 years of age, and posted to the genforum web board by Roberta Abbe. Note that there is no mention by him of being a Cherokee. If he was, his citizenship would have been revoked:

Davilla Milam Co. Tex

Oct 5th 1874

I was born in the State of Tennessee. I arrived in Texas the 25th day of December A.D. 1837. I served in Captain Jack Hays' company, in 1842.

I was attached to the Sammerville (Somervell) campaign. I served as a spy and Scout but Hays' services are historicle, I was discharged on the 1st day January A.D. 1843, after which I was in the Snively expedition, in Captain Spence's company, in 1843. We killed and captured on hundred Mexicans and were frequently engaged with Indians. I held a commission (from Jeneral Sam Houston who was then president of the republic of Texas,) as Indian agent. I brought the Comanches in and they made a treaty with the whites, near where the town of Marlin stands. During my term of service with the Indians there were less depredations on the frontier than at any time since. I have eleven Children. Four of them are married, and settled in the western side of Milam County. I own one hundred acres of Land, a few cattle, and a few Horses. I support myself and family, from a small farm, by my own labor.

Stephen T. Slater

State of Texas

County of Milam

Before me the undersigned authority this day personally appeared Stephen T. Slater to me well known and being by me duly sworn says upon oath that the above & foregoing facts are true & correct.

In testimony whereof I Jno C Crunk Notary Public Milam County hereunto sign my name and affix my seal of Office this the 5th day of October AD 1874.

[Punctuation and spelling as originally given.]

Roberta also gave further information about Stephen Slater's parents and his first wife Mary Slater, born Mary Gilleland:

Stephen Thomas Slater, was born in Tennessee, 31 January 1815. His date of death was November 2, 1884 and he is buried in the Sharp Cemetary in Sharp, Texas.

His mother's name was Lavina. He was a Cherokee Indian. His first wife was Mary Gilleland, daughter of Daniel Gilleland and Precilla Boatwright, original settlers of Texas with Stephen F. Austin. Stephen and Mary Slater's daughter Mary Xantippe was my great-grandmother. Stephen Slater lived in Milam Co. and Williamson Co.

Reference to Stephen Slater's Indian agent service is in the Indian Papers of Texas and the Southwest 1825-1916, Volume II, edited by Dorman H. Winfrey, Director, Texas State Library and James M. Day, Texas State Archivist, 1966, The Pemberton Press Austin, pages 85-87, 94-97, 103-119, 129-131, 133-134, 141, 148-149, 153, 157-158, 198, 437.

In 2005, a document signed by Stephen T. Slater and Sam Houston was auctioned by a dealer in rare Westerniana. Here is a description of it, along with the estimated and the realized price:

from http://www.dsloan.com/Auctions/a4/Lots_78-104.html

100. HOUSTON, Samuel & Stephen T. Slater. Document signed. Washington [-on-the-Brazos], September 17, 1844. 1 p., folio, written on upper third of sheet. Manuscript docketing on verso. Very fine, with Houston's large signature and rubric; also signed by Indian agent Slater. Slater's submission of expenses incurred "on road and in Washington as bearer of express from Tah-woc-cano Creek to the President, and returning $10 on Indians business." On August 6, 1844, President Houston appointed Slater as agent to various tribes of Indians residing on the frontier. Slater's mission was to encourage adherence to the terms of the treaty of peace between the Republic of Texas and all of the Texas tribes except the Wichita and Commanche (concluded on September 29, 1843, and ratified early in 1844). See The Writings of Sam Houston (IV, pp.358-59) for Houston's instructions to Slater regarding his commission. ($3,000-5,000) $3,450.00

Tah-woc-cano Creek, mentioned in the above document, is now known as Tehuacana Creek, and was the site of the signing of the Tehuacana Creek Treaty between the Republic of Texas and the Comanches.

At the Texas History Online page, http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/SS/fsl16.html -- in an article written by Dale Selfridge, we find the fullest biography yet of Stephen Thomas Slater. Among other things, we learn that:

Slater received his letter of commission as Indian Agent, on August 6, 1844. He signed the Tehuacana Creek Treaty as a witness for the Republic of Texas.

In 1861 Texas formed the Texas State Troops for frontier defense. Slater served in the TST in Capt. A. J. Berry Company C, Williamson County 1st Battalion, 2nd Brigade. During Reconstruction in Texas, Mr. Slater was installed as Justice of the Peace, by special order No. 119 by Maj. Gen. Joseph Jones Reynolds, Commander of the 5th Military District, State of Texas.

Slater was a Mason and in 1873 served in the Davilla Lodge #340 at Tyler. His date of affiliation was September 6, 1873. Since his record shows affiliation, rather than installed, passed, or raised, this would indicate Slater was a Mason prior to this date.

More remains to be learned about the background of Stephen Thomas Slater, but whatever his family history, we know that in addition to his primary career as a farmer, he was a trusted and responsible soldier, Freemason, and public servant.


The Milam County Federal Census of 1850

The Milam County Federal Census of 1850 is online at --
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/milam/census/1850/0017a.gif

Stephen T. Slater   28    m   farmer    Tennessee      0017a 436 452
Mary Slater         21    f             Arkansas       0017a 436 452
Eugene Slater        4    m             Texas          0017a 436 452
Thomas Slater        3    m             Texas          0017a 436 452
Kantippe Slater      1/12 f             Texas          0017a 436 452
Lavina Slater       64    f             Kentucky       0017a 436 452

Note that Kantippe is Xantippe. She is not yet called Mary Xantippe, because her mother, Mary GILLELAND, is still alive; she was given her mother's first name after her mother's death.

Also in the Milam County Federal Census of 1850 we find the birth family of Mary GILLELAND Slater. Note that the spelling is GILLILAND here; it varied considerably during this time in Texas. The page is online at --
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/milam/census/1850/0016b.gif

Daniel Gilliland    55    m   farmer    Virginia        0016b 434 450
Pricilla Gilliland  47    f             Illinois        0016b 434 450
William Gilliland   25    m   farmer    Texas           0016b 434 450
John Gilliland      17    m             Texas           0016b 434 450
Daniel Gilliland    15    m             Texas           0016b 434 450
James Gilliland     15    m             Texas           0016b 434 450
Alexander Gilliland 15    m             Texas           0016b 434 450
Felix Gilliland     15    m             Texas           0016b 434 450

I seriously question whether the family actually had FOUR sons, all aged 15 years old in 1850. Perhaps some of the ages are enumeration or transcription errors, or perhaps a some of the boys were cousins or nephews or adopted orphans. I leave it to some tenaciouus Gilliland to figure that out.

There is much more information below on The Gillelands and Boatwrights: the Gaelic Connection


The Milam County Texas School Census of 1854 - 1856

The Milam County School Census of 1854 - 1856 online at --
http://www.geocities.com/milamco/milam-318a.htm
http://www.geocities.com/milamco/milam-318b.htm
http://www.geocities.com/milamco/milam-318c.htm
-- supplies quite a lot of research information about the life of Stephen T. Slater, but also further confuses matters.

First, all of the parents, guardians, and children listed are said to be white, for the documents are subtitled:

     Enumeration of free white population 
     between the ages of six & sixteen years
     in Milam Co. A.D. [year, 1854, 1855, 1856]

Second, although Eugene Slater, born 18 Nov 1846, would have been 8 years old at the time, the Milam County school census for 1854 that is online lists no school children age 6 - 16 with the surname Slater.

Third, the 1855 and 1856 census reports are quite contradictory:

19 July 1855:

   Parent or Guardian      Children      District
   Slater, Thomas          Eugene        11

5 Sept 1856:

   Parent or Guardian      Children      District
   Slater, S.              Eugene        11
                           Thomas
   Slater, Stephen         James         11
                           Hanleppa (?)
                           Melissa
                           Jackson 

Assuming that the Thomas Slater of 1855 and the S. Slater of 1856 are both our Stephen Thomas Slater with son Eugene, we are left to wonder who the SECOND Stephen Slater of 1856 is -- the one listed as parent or guardian of the children named James, Hanleppa (?), Melissa, and Jackson. My best guess is that some time after Mary Gilleland died on January 7, 1852, Stephen Thomas Slater remarried to a widow with three school-age children and became their guardian.

If this is the case, then the second marriage took place between the school census of 19 July 1855 and the school census of 5 Sept 1856. (We do know that Stephen T. Slater remarried because in his brief Oct 5th 1874 autobiography, he stated that he had 11 children.)

Xantippe Slater was listed in the 1856 school census (as Hanleppa Slater) under her brothers Eugene and Thomas as she was then 6 1/2 years old (born March or April 1850; school census recorded 5 Sept 1856). Her younger brother Stephen D. Slater was under the age of 6 when the enumeration was made and thus not old enough to be listed.

Since Xantippe is enumerated after James, we can assume that James is older than her (that is, born before 1850) and that he is a son of the widow-woman whom Stephen married. This leaves the two youngest children, Melissa and Jackson -- also born around 1850, in order to be old enough appear on the 1856 school census -- as previous children of Stephen's second wife.

Unfortunately, the school census list of 1855 will not help us find the name of Stephen Slater's second wife, for the names of the children James, Melissa, and Jackson do not appear together in the 1855 school census under a previous parent or guardian. Either the children did not live in Milam County at that time or (more likely, since they are listed after Xantippe) Melissa and Jackson were not yet of school age in 1855 and the family only had one child, James, in school at that time.

There are many children named James in the 1855 census, mostly in families accompanied by children with other names. However, it is worthwhile noting that a couple of the children named James lived with single women parents or parents listed by first letter initials only -- for instance Elenor Lampkin in District 6 and A. C. Dodd in District 12 each had a son named James and no other children in school at that time. More research is needed here, obviously.

Whether Cherokee or free white, and regardless of who his second wife was or who their children were, Stephen Thomas Slater is buried in the Sharp Cemetery in Texas. No wife is buried with him.

See the autobiography of Stephen Slater.


The Children of William S. "Barney" Selfridge, MD, and Xantippe Slater

The post at http://genforum.genealogy.com/selfridge continued:

My great-grandfather (a son of Dr. William Barney Selfridge and Mary Xantippi Slater Selfridge) was Steven Thomas Selfridge, born October 21, 1869, in TX; he married Celia Patterson, daughter of "John W. Patterson and wife".
This record of the children of William S. "Barney" Selfridge and Mary Xantippe Slater Selfridge seems complete, and was provided by Roberta Abbe to the genforum site in 2000, to which i have added some material from Oklahoma marriage records (at http://members.tripod.com/~mccurtain_2/marriages/gmarriage1s1.html ):

William S. "Barney" SELFRIDGE
+ Married (Mary) Xantippe SLATER
daughter of Stephen Thomas SLATER and Mary GILLELAND

Steven Thomas Selfridge's first and middle names hailed back to both his maternal grandfather, Stephen Thomas Slater, and to his paternal uncle, Steven Thomas Selfridge. Throughout his life he went under the typically Texan nickname of "S.T." -- and several family members don't spell his full name out on their birth records.

Rose Lavina Selfridge's name harked back to Xantippe's [presumably Cherokee] grandmother Lavina, (born in Kentucky about 1786), whose surname remains unknown and whose married name was Lavina Slater.

The tragedy that overtook the family of William S. and Xantippe Selfridge is evident in the birth and death records of the couple's last four children, followed shortly by the death of Xantippe herself: In less than four years, four children were born and all of them -- and their mother -- had died. It is reasonable to assume that this is what drove Barney to abandon farming and to return to school to become a doctor.


The Wives and Children of Steven Thomas Selfridge

The post at http://genforum.genealogy.com./selfridge continued:

My grandfather, a son of Steven Thomas Selfridge and Celia Patterson, was John William Selfridge, born October 28, 1894 in Dennison, TX.

I have not yet acquired a full list of the children of Steven Thomas Selfridge and Celia Patterson -- and in fact, there is quite a bit of confusion surrounding this generation.

Here is a list of the children of Steven Thomas ("S.T.") Selfridge, without respect to who the mother(s) of his children were. The reason for this will be explained below.

Of these children, it is the oldest, John William -- known throughout his life as "J.W." -- who is related to my husband. He is my husband's grandfather. He was born in Dennison, Texas, lived for a time in Oklahoma, and moved to California after 1940. He died in California. John William's wife was Clara Ellen Allen.

Note, though, that according to Roberta Abbe, above, Stephen Thomas Selfridge married Lula Robinson on March 9, 1905.

And there seems to have been a third wife as well -- Louise Garmon or Gorman (see below).

In all, it appears that Stephen Thomas Selfridge had 11 children by three wives.

The following post i made in reply to a post by Maronda at the genforum board helps explain the need for further research into this generation's maternal lineage:

Maronda [Fuqua] wrote (to Patricia):

"I was reading that you have a William Selfridge in your tree. I too have him. He was married to Xanantippy Slate or Slater, can't read writing."

It's "Xantippe Slater," according to an earlier post on this board -- but in my husband's baby book, she is called "Ann Slater" -- same person, though, married to Dr. William Barney Selfridge, who was born in Derry, Ireland in 1831 and died in Norman, Oklahoma in 1912, after long residence in Texas.

"They were my ggg grand parents."

They were my husband's great great grandparents (and i think your gg grandparents, too, not ggg, at least according to the rest of your letter).

"They had 7 Children -
  • S.T. Selfridge
  • Minnie Selfridge
  • Eugina Selfridge
  • Barney Selfridge
  • Frank Selfridge
  • Jim Selfridge
  • Pearl Selfridge
[Actually, there were 11 children, but four died in childhood.]

They lived in Bell County, Texas, but moved to Oklahoma."

This is right, if your "S.T." is my husband's great grandfather, Steven Thomas Selfridge, who was born October 21, 1869 in Texas and moved to Oklahoma.

"Of the children, S.T. married Louise Garmon and they had 11 Children -
  • John Selfridge
  • Jim Selfridge
  • B. Alex Selfridge
  • Ida Selfridge
  • Lyda Selfridge
  • Robbie Selfridge
  • Lola Selfridge
  • Mollie Selfridge
  • Cora Selfridge
  • Nora Selfridge
  • Furman Selfridge

Furman is my grandfather."

Okay, now here is where your records and my husband's baby book diverge -- but i think i have an explanation!

His book says that his great-grandfather Steven Thomas Selfridge (same as your great-grandfather S.T. Selfridge) married Celia A. Patterson, daughter of "John W. Patterson and wife" and that their son was John W. Selfridge, born in Dennison, Texas on October 28, 1894 (my husband's grandfather). It seems pretty obvious that this John W. Selfridge was named to honour his paternal grandfather John W. Patterson.

It is my guess that Celia A. Patterson / Annie Cecilia Patterson died young and that of the 11 children you list as children of S.T. Selfridge and Louise Garman, AT LEAST the first (whom you also list at "John" -- so we are talking about the same folks here) was actually the son of S.T. Selfridge (Steven Thomas Selfridge) and his first wife, Celia A. Patterson. Then we have the evidence of Roberta Abbe that Stephen T. Selfridge married a second wife, Lula on March 9, 1905.

Celia's death and the adoption of John by Lula Robinson and the possible children she then had before she too died, and the adoption of all previous children by the third wife, Louise Garman, is just a guess, but it's the only way the whole thing could make sense to me! I mean, there couldn't have been TWO sets of John W. Selfridges with the same father's name (S.T. / Steven Thomas), and same grandparents' names (Dr. William S. Barney Selfridge and Xantippe Slater) born in Bell Country, Texas in the late 1800s. Of course, a proper birth-and-death record search would settle the question ... but in any case, i think you are one of my husband's distant cousins!


The children of John William Selfridge and Clara Ellen Allen

My husband's paternal grandfather John William Selfridge and grandmother Clara Ellen Allen Selfridge had 7 sons, who were:

This photo, taken during the 1960s, shows the seven Selfridge brothers, from left to right: J.W. ("Major"), Ken Larry ("Larry"), Neal Thomas, Wilburn Lee ("Willie"), Bobbie Clifford, Wayne Harding, and Edgar ("Ed") Allen.

The shorter brothers resemble their "Irish looking" mother, Clara Ellen Allen. The taller brothers resemble their "Cherokee looking" father, John William Selfridge. John WIlliam Selfridge married Clara Ellen Allen, born October 2, 1900 in Conway, AR.


Allen and Harris Families: Duke Allen and Marma Duke Allen

Clara Ellen Allen was the child of Julie Hale MENEES and James W. ALLEN. Here is her ancestry, as far as i have traced it, both on her maternal and her paternal lineages. Many of these folks lived in and around Conway, Arkansas. These records are unconfirmed and come from rootsweb databases, but the name "Duke Allen" does appear in my husband's Baby Book as one of his earliest known ancestors in that line, and was placed there by Clara Ellen Allen, his grandmother.

My First glimpse of the Marmaduke ALLEN lineage came in 2001,with a post at https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/allen/15259/

Does anyone know of Marmaduke Allen b/abt l848 AL, parents-Asa, Diana Allen.Settled in Conway,AR area 1860? Siblings-John, Francis, James D., Margaret, Charles D., Jackson, Marion A., Isaac B. Please contact me if you know this family. Thanks, Glenda tkdozier@oio.net
From this i derived

Asa ALLEN  Settled in Conway, Arkansas, c. 1860
  + Diana UNKNOWN Settled in Conway, Arkansas, c. 1860
	2 Marmaduke ALLEN Born c.  1848 in Alabama, came to Conway, Arkansas with his parents c. 1860
	2 John ALLEN
	2 Francis ALLEN
	2 James D. ALLEN
	2 Margaret ALLEN,
	2 Charles D. ALLEN
	2 Jackson ALLEN
	2 Marion A. ALLEN
	2 Isaac B. ALLEN

Subsequent searches took me back another generation. It turned out that Asa (Acey) ALLEN was born James Asa ALLEN in 1823 in Tennessee River, Alabama, and died in 1891, in Scott County, Arkansas.

Other descendents of Duke / Marmaduke Allen who are researching this family on the internet have claimed that there is significant Choctaw heritage in this lineage.

I put all of this together with information from http://genforum.genealogy.com/ar/scott/messages/417.html:

ALLEN LINEAGE: DESCENDENTS OF DUKE ALLEN

1 Duke (Marmaduke) ALLEN b: 1794 Marshall County, Alabama. Was in Jackson, Alabama in 1840. d: 1875 Walker County, Alabama
  + Frances (Francis) UNKNOWN b: 1795 Georgia d: 1897 Walker County, Alabama
    Married abt. 1823 in Alabama 
    2 James Asa (Acey) ALLEN b: 1823 Tennessee River, Alabama d: 1891 Scott County, Arkansas
      + Dianna (Dianah, Diana) MOORE b: 1828 Alabama d: abt. 1873 Conway County, Arkansas
        Married November 25, 1844 in Marshall County, Alabama; Court Records, Film # 1035274 - 1035279
        list the marriage as Asa Allen to Dianah Moore. They had five children.
        3 Marma Duke / Marmaduke / Marmara ALLEN b: 1847 / 1848 Alabama d: 1899 Conway County, Arkansas
          Burial: Old Hickory Cemetery, Hattieville, Conway County, Arkansas
          Note: listed as Marmara, a female, on the 1860 Federal Census, but obviously a male, 
          due to later marriage records and children born to him. 
          + Polly Ann HARRIS b: Feb 1853 / 1854 d: 1903
           Marriage Date: Jul 17, 1870, Conway County, Arkansas County Court Records, Film # 1025329 - 1025335
           Burial: Old Hickory Cemetery, Hattieville, Conway County, Arkansas
            4 James W. ALLEN b: June 15, 1872 d: UNKNOWN
              + Julie Hale MENEES b: Arkansas d: Sallisaw, Oklahoma
                Her birth record is not yet found, but in the Old Hickory Cemetary (a very small cemetery, with only 64 graves), 
                there are a number of MENEES and BLANKENSHIP family members buried alongside the Marma Duke ALLEN family 
                members. Based on likely dates, i think that Julie Hale MENEES is related to, and is possible the child of  
                Margaret Ann HALE MENEES b: Dec. 31, 1849 Tennessee d: Oct. 21, 1938 Sequoyah County, Oklahoma
                Burial: Old Hickory Cemetery, Hattieville, Conway County, Arkansas and her husband 
                Andrew Jackson ("Jack") MENEES b: Mar. 7, 1849 Fulton County, Kentucky d: Jun. 5, 1905 Conway County, Arkansas
                Burial: Old Hickory Cemetery, Hattieville, Conway County, Arkansas
                and probably a sister of 
                Lola Beatrice ("Bea") MENEES HAWKINS b: Jul. 12, 1871 Fulton County, Kentucky d: May 27, 1961 Chicot County, Arkansas
                Burial: Old Hickory Cemetery, Hattieville, Conway County, Arkansas, who married Edward Arthur HAWKINS (1863-1947)
                and a sister of
                J. M. MENEES b: Mar. 26, 1875 Fulton County, Kentucky d: Oct. 4, 1877
                Other MENEES information i have found online: This line starts with George MENEES
                (b. abt. 1710 in Antrim, Ireland) who married Female UNKNOWN, and continues through
                son James MENEES (married Ellen CARDWELL), Benjamin MENEES (married Ann WADE), John
                MENEES (married [Female Unknown] GRIFFITH, Isaac MENEES (married Emaline GORE), and
                Andrew Jackson MENEES (b. 1849 in Fulton Co. KY (married Margaret HALE of Hardin Co.
                Tennessee) at which point the line follows their daughter, Julie Hale MENEES, who
                married James W. ALLEN in Conway, Arkansas and died in Sallisaw, Oklahoma.  Margaret HALE 
                was the daughter of J.D. HALE and Lavica WHITE HALE. Lavica HALE CATES -- born in
                1876 and found through an obituary online, -- is doubtless the younger sister of
                Julie HALE MENEES and thus another child of Margaret HALE MENEES and Andrew Jackson
                MENEES. Like her sister, she too died in Sallisaw, Oklahoma. And Sallisaw, Oklahoma
                was where Clara Ellen Allen met up with J.W. Selfridge.
                5 Clara Ellen ALLEN b: October 2, 1900 Conway, AR
                 + John William (J.W.) Selfridge b: October 28, 1894 Dennison, Texas
                   6 Edgar ("Ed") Allen SELFRIDGE b: March 31, 1918, Sasakwa, OK; d: Feb 1983, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
                     + [probably Lenora M. UNKNOWN SELFRIDGE b: 27 Jan 1923, d: 06 Jul 2004, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA; S.S. card issued in California;
                     see  Selfridges Requiring Further Look-Ups]
                   6 Wayne Harding SELFRIDGE b: August 24, 1920, Sasakwa, OK; d: Jul 24, 1998, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
                   6 Neal Thomas SELFRIDGE b: July 28, 1923, Drumright, OK;
                     + Unknown Female UNKNOWN
                       7 Unknown Male SELFRIDGE
                         + Unknown Female UNKNOWN (divorced) (Poster refers to Neal as her ex-father-in-law and mentions her children, plural)
                           8 Child 1
                           8 Child 2 
                   6 Wilburn Lee ("Willie") SELFRIDGE b: November 10, 1926, Seminole, OK; d: 
                   6 James William (J. W. / "Major") SELFRIDGE b: July 10, 1931, Seminole, OK; d: Mar 20, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
                     + [probably Jane A. UNKNOWN SELFRIDGE; b: 17 Jan 1933, d: 25 Feb 1995, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA; S.S. card issued in Texas 
                     see  Selfridges Requiring Further Look-Ups]
                   6 Bobbie Clifford ("Bobby" / "Bob") SELFRIDGE b: February 17, 1934, Seminole, OK; d: Apr 16, 2003, Chandler, Maricopa, AZ 
                   6 Ken Larry ("Larry") SELFRIDGE b: October 14, 1940, Seminole, OK.
                     + Lora Lee / Lori MASEY b: 26 FEB 1943, Santa Monica, CA 
                       daughter of Charles Leroy / Leroy Charles / Roy / Lee C. MASEY 
                       b: 15 APR 1906 McMinnville, TN d: 12 DEC 1972, Reseda, Los Angeles, Californa
                        Picture of Charles Leroy MASEY age 8
                        Picture of Leroy C. MASEY, about age 22
                        Picture of Leroy C. MASEY with his sitsers, about age 22
                        Picture of Leroy MASEY in his car, about age 30
                       and May Olivia MARLES b: May 7, 1911 d: Jan, 1985, Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA
                       m: 29 JUL 1960, Santa Cruz CA (Divorced)
                       7 Bryan William SELFRIDGE / Nagasiva Bryan W YRONWODE b: 25 OCT 1961
                       Picture of Bryan W. SELFRIDGE / Nagasiva Bryan W YRONWODE age 37
                         + June PETERSON / June DELANE b: 24 JUN 1963, Milpitas, CA m: 2 AUG 1986 (Divorced)
                         + catherine anna MANFREDI / catherine anna YRONWODE b: 12 MAY 1947, San Francisco, CA m: 1 JAN 2000 in Milpitas, CA
                       7 Kenneth Jay SELFRIDGE b: 25 NOV 1964, Los Gatos, CA
                         + Carla JOHNSON  b: 5 NOV 1959 m: 25 MAY 1996
                           8 Taylor McKenzie SELFRIDGE b: 16 AUG 1997 in Los Angeles, CA
                     + Second Wife UNKNOWN  m: circa 1975 - 1980
                       7 Private Female SELFRIDGE b: circa 1980
            4 Ann ALLEN b: 1875 d: UNKNOWN (probably before 1900)
            4 Derias ALLEN b: 1876 d: UNKNOWN (probably before 1900)
            4 Marma Duke (Marmaduke) ALLEN, Jr. b: 23 MAY 1878 / May 1879 Conway, AR d: 12 AUG 1940
              Burial: Old Hickory Cemetery, Hattieville, Conway County, Arkansas
              + Etta Josephine NORWOOD b: 12 AUG 1884 Pope County, AR d: 18 MAY 1966 Conway County, AR 
                Etta was the daughter of John W. Norwood and Betty Rainey Norwood.
                Etta married Marma Duke Allen, II on July, 1901 in Pope Co., Arkansas.
                Burial: Old Hickory Cemetery, Hattieville, Conway County, Arkansas 
                (See http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=993087 for more NORWOODS buried with ALLENS)
                5 John M. ALLEN b: July 07, 1902 d: July 07, 1902
                  + Lizzie WHITE
                5 Eugene B. ALLEN b: January 25, 1905 d: July 24, 1984
                  + Ola WHITE
                5 James Andrew ("Andy") ALLEN b: September 28, 1906 d: July 27, 1986
                  + Mary LuVenia ("Mary Lue") BLANKENSHIP b: 22 SEP 1915 d: UNKNOWN
                  Mr. & Mrs. James Andy Allen of Jerusalem celebrate 50th. Atkins Chronicle 9-1-82. http://www.popelibrary.org/index.php/genealogy/family-files-index/family-files-index-a/
                5 Cecil Otto ALLEN b: June 08, 1909
                  + Hazel CRITES
                  Mr. & Mrs. Otto Allen celebrate 50th. Atkins Chronicle May 30, 79. http://www.popelibrary.org/index.php/genealogy/family-files-index/family-files-index-a/
                5 Ruby ALLEN b: April 06, 1912
                  + Thomas L. ("Tom") VICTORY
                  + Ross ELKINS
                5 Bessie Lucille ALLEN b: December 19, 1913  Arkansas d: February 14, 1991 
                  + John BLANKENSHIP (See http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=993087 for BLANKESHIPS buried with ALLENS)
                5 Ted ALLEN b: February 11, 1916 d: October 11, 1983. 
                  Ted was married 4 times; names of wives not known. 
                5 Fred ALLEN May 09, 1918
                  + Lorene BLANKENSHIP (See http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=993087 for BLANKESHIPS buried with ALLENS)
                  + Jean PARKER
                5 Ernest ALLEN b: June 12, 1922
                  + Kathryn HURST
                5 Connie ALLEN b: May 05, 1925
                  + Lyle HURST
            4 Rachel E. ALLEN b: FEB 1889 Arkansas d: UNKNOWN
              + James R. RAMER b: 19 AUG 1887 d: DEC 1966
                5 Troy R. RAMER b: 1908 d: UNKNOWN
        3 John William ALLEN b: 1850 / 1855 Alabama d. 1928, Finley, Oklahoma
        3 Frances ALLEN CELF RODGERS b: 1853 / 1855 Alabama  (This is Glenda tkdozier's Francis ALLEN)
          + Unknown SELF (CELF)
            4 Amanda SELF (Bennie CELF) b: October 1874 Arkansas; father born in AL, mother born in AL (1880 Federal census)
              + Charles R. ("C.R.") Beauchamp b: 1866
              Marriage September 1, 1889 ("Beauchamp, C. J. 23 of Black Fork to Bennie Celf 14 of Black Fork 
              by O. K. Davis on 1 September 1889." Scott County Marriage Book A., Page 507)
              5 Charles M. BEAUCHAMP b: July 1890 Scott County, Arkansas.
              5 Thomas BEAUCHAMP b: February 1893 Scott County, Arkansas
              5 Maudie BEAUCHAMP b: August 1895 Scott County, Arkansas
          + Unknown RODGERS (See also Betta SLEDGE RODGERS ALLEN -- this is a weird coincidence of surnames)
            4 James RODGERS b: 1878 Arkansas; father born in AL, mother born in AL (1880 Federal census)
          Who Frances married and when is not known; in 1880 at the age of 25 she was enumerated in the 
          Federal census as living with Asa ALLEN and his second wife Elizabeth (Betta) ALLEN and having in the household 
          her two children, Amanda SELF and James RODGERS, both listed as the grandchildren of Asa ALLEN.
        3 James David ALLEN b: April 14, 1855  Alabama; d. August 09, 1911, Arkansas
        3 Margaret ALLEN b: 1858 Alabama    
      + Elizabeth (Betta) SLEDGE RODGERS: b: 1839 Conway, Arkansas 
      	(daughter of Elizabeth SLEDGE; her father (Mr. SLEDGE?) was not in family in 1850 census). 
        	Elizabeth SLEDGE was born in Virginia in 1800; the 1850 census makes it clear that Betta's siblings were Herada SLEDGE b: 1830 in Tennessee, 
       	 	Henry SLEDGE b: 1836 in Arkansas, and Benjamin SLEDGE, born b: 1841 in Arkansas. Elizabeth SLEDGE was related also to 
        	Austin SLEDGE, b: 1819 who lived next door in 1850 with his family. In the 1870 census Betta's brother Henry SLEDGE was 
        	in Arkansas married to a woman named Martha UNKNOWN and they had a child, Peter SLEDGE. 
        	In the 1860 census, Betta SLEDGE was a 21 year old servant ("Cooks and C[leans]") in the home of Willian and Cintha Lilly of Springfield, 
        	Conway, Arkansas. She then married a man named Mr. RODGERS, because she was listed as Betta Rodgers, a 31 year old domestic servant 
        	in the home of H.P. Hogan and Rosetta Hogan of Muddy Bayou / Cane Creek, Conway, Arkansas in the 1870 census.  Her children were not 
        	living with her at that time. All that is known of their father is that he was born in Alabama. 
        3* Charles D. RODGERS / Charles D. ALLEN b: 1862 Indian Territory, Oklahoma [step-child of Asa]; father born in AL, mother born in AR (1880 Federal census)
        3* Jackson RODGERS / Jackson ALLEN b: 1866 Indian Territory, Oklahoma [step-child of Asa]; father born in AL, mother born in AR (1880 Federal census)
        	Betta's first two children were born in Indian Territory, Oklahoma -- Charles D. RODGERS when Betta was 23 years old 
        	and Jackson RODGERS when Betta was 27 years old. Her next two children -- Marion A. RODGERS and Isaac Bailey RODGERS -- 
        	were born in Arkansas (after the 1870 census) when she was 31 - 34 years old.  
        3* Marion A. RODGERS / Marion A. ALLEN  b: 1870 Arkansas [step-child of Asa]; father born in AL, mother born in AR (1880 Federal census)
        3* Isaac Bailey RODGERS / Isaac Bailey ALLEN  b: October 1870 or 1873 Arkansas [step-child of Asa]; father born in AL, mother born in AR 
        	(1880 Federal census) 
        	When Betta SLEDGE RODGERS married Asa ALLEN on September 02, 1874, her children took the ALLEN surname. These children are given an * to signify 
        	that they are not DNA descendents of the ALLEN family. Betta was 35 and Asa was 51, but the marriage licence lists her as 36 and him as 46. 
        	Asa's wife Dianah MOORE ALLEN had died c. 1873, a year earlier. (Conway County, Arkansas County Court Records, Film # 1025329 - 1025335) 
        	[He was listed as "Asia Allen" on the certificate.] The 16 (or 10) year age difference between them, the fact that his first wife had recently died, 
        	and Betta, a former domestic servant, was alone with four children seem to point to a marriage of convenience. 
        	Nevertheless, two children were born to Asa and Betta, the first within one year of their marriage:
        3 Henrey (Henry) H.P ALLEN b: 1875 in AR [father born in AL, mother born in AR] (1880 Federal census) by the 1910 census he was H. P. Allen in Oklahomma.
        	+ Iona UNKNON. (She had children from a previous marriage)
            4 Elisha ALLEN b. 1910 in Oklahoma.
        3 Calhoon ALLEN b: 1877 in AR [father born in AL, mother born in AR] (1880 Federal census) 
Note: Elizabeth (Betta) ALLEN married a Francis GOULD in 1887 in Scott County, Arkansas; either she had left James Asa (Acey) ALLEN by then or she was a widow, in which case his death date given above, 1891, is off by a few years. She was 48 at the time of this third marriage and had no more children.

HARRIS LINEAGE: DESCENDENTS OF MARY ANN HARRIS

1 Unknown HARRIS           
  + Unknown UNKNOWN           
  2 Mary Ann HARRIS b: 1854 d: 1903
    + Marma Duke ALLEN b: 1848 d: 1899
      3 James W. ALLEN b: 1872 d: UNKNOWN
        + Julie Hale MENEES 
           4 Clara Ellen ALLEN
           + J. W. Selfridge
             5 Edgar ("Ed") Allen SELFRIDGE b: March 31, 1918, Sasakwa, OK; d: Feb 1983, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
               + [probably Lenora M. UNKNOWN SELFRIDGE b: 27 Jan 1923, d: 06 Jul 2004, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA; S.S. card issued in California;
               see  Selfridges Requiring Further Look-Ups]
             5 Wayne Harding SELFRIDGE b: August 24, 1920, Sasakwa, OK; d: Jul 24, 1998, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
             5 Neal Thomas SELFRIDGE b: July 28, 1923, Drumright, OK;
               + Unknown Female UNKNOWN
                 6 Unknown Male SELFRIDGE
                   + Unknown Female UNKNOWN (divorced) (Poster refers to Neal as her ex-father-in-law and mentions her children, plural)
                     7 Child 1
                     7 Child 2 
             5 Wilburn Lee ("Willie") SELFRIDGE b: November 10, 1926, Seminole, OK; d: 
             5 James William (J. W. / "Major") SELFRIDGE b: July 10, 1931, Seminole, OK; d: Mar 20, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
               + [probably Jane A. UNKNOWN SELFRIDGE; b: 17 Jan 1933, d: 25 Feb 1995, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA; S.S. card issued in Texas 
               see  Selfridges Requiring Further Look-Ups]
             5 Bobbie Clifford ("Bobby" / "Bob") SELFRIDGE b: February 17, 1934, Seminole, OK; d: Apr 16, 2003, Chandler, Maricopa, AZ 
             5 Ken Larry ("Larry") SELFRIDGE b: October 14, 1940, Seminole, OK.
               + Lora Lee / Lori MASEY b: 26 FEB 1943, Santa Monica, CA 
               daughter of Charles Leroy / Leroy Charles / Roy / Lee C. MASEY 
               b: 15 APR 1906 McMinnville, TN d: 12 DEC 1972, Reseda, Los Angeles, Californa
                Picture of Charles Leroy MASEY age 8
                Picture of Leroy C. MASEY, about age 22
                Picture of Leroy C. MASEY with his sitsers, about age 22
                Picture of Leroy MASEY in his car, about age 30
               and May Olivia MARLES b: May 7, 1911 d: Jan, 1985, Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA
               m: 29 JUL 1960, Santa Cruz CA (Divorced)
                 6 Bryan William SELFRIDGE / Nagasiva Bryan W YRONWODE b: 25 OCT 1961
                 Picture of Bryan W. SELFRIDGE / Nagasiva Bryan W YRONWODE age 37
                   + June PETERSON / June DELANE b: 24 JUN 1963, Milpitas, CA m: 2 AUG 1986 (Divorced)
                   + catherine anna MANFREDI / catherine anna YRONWODE b: 12 MAY 1947, San Francisco, CA m: 1 JAN 2000 in Milpitas, CA
                 6 Kenneth Jay SELFRIDGE b: 25 NOV 1964, Los Gatos, CA
                   + Carla JOHNSON  b: 5 NOV 1959 m: 25 MAY 1996
                     7 Taylor McKenzie SELFRIDGE b: 16 AUG 1997 in Los Angeles, CA
               + Second Wife UNKNOWN  m: circa 1975 - 1980
                 6 Private Female SELFRIDGE b: circa 1980
      3 Ann ALLEN b: 1875 d: UNKNOWN
      3 Derias ALLEN b: 1876 d: UNKNOWN
      3 Marma Duke ALLEN , Jr. b: 23 MAY 1878 d: 12 AUG 1940
        + Etta J. NORWOOD b: 12 AUG 1884 d: 18 MAY 1966
          4 John M. ALLEN b: 1903 d: UNKNOWN
          4 Eugene B. ALLEN b: 1905 d: UNKNOWN
          4 James Andrew ALLEN b: 28 SEP 1906 d: 27 JUL 1986
            + Mary Luvenia UNKNOWN b: 22 SEP 1915 d: UNKNOWN
          4 Cecil O. ALLEN b: Private
      3 Bessie ALLEN b: AFT 1880 d: UNKNOWN
      3 Rachel E. ALLEN b: FEB 1889 d: UNKNOWN
        + James R. RAMER b: 19 AUG 1887 d: DEC 1966
          4 Troy R. RAMER b: 1908 d: UNKNOWN

The post at http://genforum.genealogy.com./selfridge concluded:

I have a long list of cousins without parental identification in this book, all of whom were born in KS, AR, or CA between 1941 and 1956.

I was born on October 25, 1961, birth name Bryan William (since legally changed) and I have one brother, Kenneth Jay, born November 25, 1964. We probably have more than one half-brother and half-sister, one of whom (half-sister) we have met.

[...] Some of my family is definitely interested in genealogy. ;>

A correspondent contacted the poster with some personal history:

I was married to one of your cousins. I met your father many years ago. As a matter of fact I have met all of the 7 boys you posted. My line is Neal Thomas. He is my ex-father-in-law. I am very interested in any info you can give me on the family (I want it for my children). I am not sure if you know, but Ed, Major, Willie, and Wayne have all passed away in the last few years. The only ones left are your dad, Neal, and Bob.

Please contact me soon, I was very shocked to see this post. Neal was unable to give me much information on his family. He sadly said at the time that when he could've wrote the information down, he didn't take the time. Now that it is too late, he wishes he did.

To this, the poster replied:
I have no contact with the Selfridge family aside from my brother, who lives in southern CA. I saw my father perhaps 10 years ago and he skipped town without saying goodbye. we are not close, especially after he distanced himself once our mother and he were divorced (I was 8; my brother was 5).

many of them lived in the Santa Clara Valley, south of SF, CA during the 60s and 70s. it was there that I met all of my uncles and their children, and my dad's mother and father. I was not at all interested in family history and the age difference was sufficient that I was bored by the way they treated children (to be seen and not heard, not often engaged as part of conversation, etc.). I have had such great differences of attitude and value with this family (as did my mother, by whom I was raised) that I never sought out family members after my parents split. my mother remarried and I eventually set out on my own in San Jose, CA, where I've lived most of my adult life. recently I moved northward toward the Santa Rosa area of CA.

my father was closest to Bob, who was the next youngest. I don't remember much about Uncles Neal or Willie. Major and Ed were very quiet. I understood Ed was troubled or psychologically unsound (retarded?). a couple of them had been in the military (Major at least) and one or more had been in jail. most if not all of them were alcoholism-prone, and their father, by reports which I received, was a violent drunk, occasionally beating up his children and threatening his wife with her life. corporal punishment was commonplace in the Selfridge family, to the point which I would describe as child abuse. I don't really know what anyone did for a living other than my father, who obtained a technical job in photography at Lockheed in Sunnyvale, CA.

my mother sat and listened to many stories which my father's father would tell about being a cowboy in the Wild West. I could not be bothered at that age (5-7). my grandmother was a sweet, if ignorant woman. at some point we became aware that, nearing the latter years of her life, she could not really tell between what she watched on television (soap operas) and 'real people's lives' (treating the shows more like the recent film "The Truman Show" with Jim Carrey, as if they were films of actual people's personal lives). perhaps this was some kind of dementia, but my mother didn't think so. my grandmother, as I remember her, was a dedicated and nurturing woman (a church-volunteer?) who loved children and cooked three or four daily meals (home-cooked Southern style) for "her boys" (including her husband). I loved her chicken and dumplings, biscuits, and mashed potatoes and gravy, and her holiday stuffing in turkeys was beyond compare. my mother tried to learn her cooking secrets from her to please my father. we were a 'meat and potatoes' family in the same way my father had grown up. family get-togethers near holidays were attended by all the boys and all their families, and this was at times quite a large number of people.

although I no longer have any interaction with the Selfridge family, this information was provided for the education and benefit of Selfridges everywhere.


Some Outlying Selfridge Cousins in Texas, Oklahoma, and Elsewhere

Here are a few assembled posts concerning the descendants of the various children of William S. Selfridge and Xantippe Slater:


The Children of Charles Francis ("Frank") Selfridge and Mary Ely

In 2000, Roberta Abbe posted this information about some outlying members of my husband's Selfridge family. These are the offspring of my husband's great-grandfather, Steven T. Selfridge's younger brother Frank:

Charles Francis (Frank) SELRIDGE and Mary ELY had 12 children:

  • Charles F. SELRIDGE 8-29-05 to 10-29-19
  • Jennie SELRIDGE 10-02-08 to -
  • Baby Boy SELRIDGE 8-31-10 to -
  • Twin Boys SELRIDGE 6-8-1911 to -
  • Ruby SELRIDGE 9-8-1912 to 2-23-1922
  • Fay SELRIDGE - to -
  • Mary SELRIDGE 2/7-11/1918 to - [incompehensible date - cat]
  • Sybil SELRIDGE 8/2-14/1920 to - [incompehensible date - cat]
  • Sylvia SELRIDGE 8/2-16/1920 to - [incompehensible date - cat]
  • Doris SELRIDGE 4/9/1922 to -
  • Opal SELRIDGE 5/22/25 to -
Jennie SELRIDGE married Marvin BYROM 12/29/1937. Children:
  • Roberta BYROM 8-10-39
  • Lawrence BYROM 2/9-12/1953 [incompehensible date - cat]
Roberta BYROM married Alan ABBE 3-25-1961. Their children are:
  • Alan II ABBE 12-7-1963
  • Laura ABBE 1-20-1965
  • Michael ABBE 5-5-1976
Alan II ABBE married Erin WALKER 8-6-1994. Children:
  • Kai ABBE (10-18-1995)
  • Kyra ABBE (2-12-1997)
  • Kasey ABBE (5-24-1999)
During the Depression, Jennie Selfridge was a field worker for the Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma -- one of the Federal Writers Projects under the Works Progress Administration. In 1936 and 1937, shortly before her marriage to Marvin Byrom, she visited historic places in Oklahoma and interviewed a number of Indian pioneers. This material was published and it is utilized by Oklahoma history and genealogy researchers to this day. The original manuscripts are collected at the University of Oklahoma.

According to the Index to Indian Pioneer Papers -- Western History Collection -- University of Oklahoma, Jennie Selfridge interviewed seven Chickasaws and two Choctaws, and wrote three "Miscellaneous" pieces.

Her description of the Mayhew Church and Court Grounds in Choctaw County is typical of her historical miscellaney.

Some of the interviews she conducted that are now online include those with Dr. Thomas Peter Howell of Eagletown, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory. and Wade Nichols of Armstrong Academy, Indian Territory. The latter interview is particularly interesting because Mr. Nichols mentions "Mike Gorman [one of the] old time residents of this section" -- and Jennie's grandfather, Steven T. Selfridge, was married to a woman named Louise Gorman or Garman, whom we believe to have been his thid wife. (Louise Goramn may have been Jennie Selfridge's grandmother.)

Jennie Selfridge also recorded the reminiscences of Eli Roberts, a Choctaw Indian, Robert Thompson, who related the story of the murder of Ben Collins, an Indian policemen in the Choctaw Nation and she interviewed Lottie McLaughlin, a Chickasaw woman variously enumerated on tribal rolls as Lottie McGlothlins, Lottie Cain, or Lottie Durham. (Dawes Roll: Cain, Lottie, 48, Female, Full, CC# 845, Page 185, Enr# 2485, Chickasaws - by Blood.) Lottie's alternate surnames are also of interest, for Durham or Durhan was the surname of Jennie Selfridge's aunt Wilhelmina Selfridge after she married James Durhan / Durham in Indian Territory and Jennie had cousins named Durhan or Durham.

It seems that Jennie Selfridge was inerviewing her own Indian relatives for the FWP.

(The McLaughlin surname found among Jennie Selfridge's "Indian Pioneers" interview subjects was a personal surprise, but probably of no genealogical significance: my husband's mother's father, supposedly of Cherokee descent and from Warren County, Tennessee, was married to a mysterious Villa Adell McLaughlin whose family and ethnicity have proven untraceable so far; Villa McLaughlin is my husband's great grandmother. There are 38 McLaughlins on the Dawes Rolls.)


The Children of William Barnett ("Barney Junior") Selfridge and Julia Donetta Caton

In August 2000, David Mark Selfridge posted to http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/selfridge.html and with this brief message filled in some information about the offspring of Barney Selfridge ["Barney Junior"], a son of Dr. William Barney Selfridge -- who was a younger brother of my husband's great-grandfather, S.T. Selfridge:

My great grandfather was Barney Selfridge
Grandfather's name: Fred Lemuel Selfridge
Father's name: William Kenneth Selfridge.
-- David Mark Selfridge, Seminole, Oklahoma
This is interesting to me because it shows, as many family histories do, the persistence of certain first names over the generations. In the case of the Selfridges, the names John, William (or Willie), Steven (or Stephen), Thomas, and Kenneth seem to appear with heightened frequency.

The marriage of Barney Junior Selfridge was recorded in Oklahoma records online at http://members.tripod.com/~mccurtain_2/marriages/gmarriage1s1.html thusly:

W. B. Selfridge, age 25 of Allen, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, married Nettie Coton, age 20, of Allen, 24 Dec 1899.

La Wana Holder is another descendant of William Barnett ("Barney Junior") Selfridge, and in 2000, she corrected the transcriber's incorrect spelling of the bride's surname Coton to Caton, expanded the first name Nettie to Julia Donetta, and then shed more light on the offspring of this union:

I am a grand daughter of the late William Barnett (Barney)
Selfridge. He was born in Cameron, Milam, Texas, 10 May
1875. Died 21 January 1964 and buried at Allen Oklahoma.

He married Julia Donetta  (Nettie) Caton on 24 December 1898 at
Oakdale, Creek nation, Indian Territory.

His older brother was Stephen Thomas Selfridge.

G'pa William Barnett Selfridge and G'ma Julia Donetta Caton had 8
children
 
  • Lavena SELFRIDGE
  • Beulah SELFRIDGE
  • Bertha SELFRIDGE
  • Navada SELFRIDGE
  • Ada SELFRIDGE
  • Willie Donetta SELFRIDGE
  • Forest Lemuel (Fred) SELFRIDGE
  • Helen SELFRIDGE
My mother is Helen, who is now the only one living. She is now a nursing home resident at the age of 83. There are cousins that are scattered all over. Hope this little bit helps.

The youngest of William Barnett SELFRIDGE's children, Helen, died in 2003. Here is her obituary, from the pages of the Seminole [OK] Producer newspaper at http://www.seminoleproducer.com/2003%20obits.htm

Helen Downey Funeral services for longtime Seminole resident, Helen Zenith Downey are scheduled for 10 a.m. Wednesday, Dec. 17 at the Swearingen Funeral Home Chapel with Rev. Rusell Vicars officiating. Interment will follow at Little Cemetery, north of Seminole under the direction of Swearingen Funeral Home of Seminole. Downey died Saturday, Dec. 13, 2003, at the age of 85 at Seminole Medical Center. She was born Dec. 29, 1917, in Roff to William Barnett Selfridge and Julia Donettie (Caton) Selfridge. She moved to Seminole in 1926 from Allen. She married Walter Maxwell Downey July 23, 1934 in Seminole. She was a homemaker and belonged to the First Baptist Church. She was preceded in death by her parents; one brother, Forest Lemuel Selfridge; sisters Lavena Peters, Beulah Smith, Bertha Rediker, Nevada Lawson, Susan Ada Selfridge and Willie Donettie Selfridge; grandchild, Kirby Lee Little; great grandchildren, Billy Dean Burnett, Derryl Lockhart Jr. and Belinda Sue Burnett. She is survived by her spouse, Walter M. Downey of the home; four sons, Walter Dale Downey of Seminole, Barnett Eugene Downey of Texas, William Keith Downey of Crane, Texas and Kenneth Ray Downey of Oklahoma City; three daughters, Joyce Darlene Burnett of Seminole, Lawana Sue Holder of Oklahoma City and Sharon Kay Baker of New Braunfels, Texas; 27 grandchildren; 57 great grandchildren and 11 great-great grandchildren. Casket bearers will be Robert Waldon, Martin Downey, Wesley Downey, Bill Downey, Mike Downey and Myron Downey. Honorary pall bearers: Walter Dale Downey, Barnett Eugene Downey, William Keith Downey, Kenneth Ray Downey, Bryce Baker, Darrell Holder and Derryl Lockhart.

Another obituary supplies information about William Kenneth Selfridge. It is from the Shawnee [OK] News-Star online at http://www.news-star.com/stories/120203/obi_14.shtml

Story last updated at 1:11 a.m. Tuesday, December 2, 2003 William Kenneth Selfridge Lifelong Seminole resident William Kenneth "Bill" Selfridge died Saturday, Nov. 29, at Seminole Medical Center. He was 59 years old. He is survived by his wife, Brenda Darlene Selfridge of the home; one son and his fiancee, Mark Selfridge and RaDonna McGowen; two brothers, Don Selfridge of Seminole and Mike Selfridge of Oklahoma City; four sisters, Ella Mae Dobbs and Jeanette Selfridge, both of Sallisaw, and Tina Shipman and Julia Fellows, both of Shawnee. Service will be 2 p.m. Wednesday at the Assembly of God Church at Bowlegs with the Rev. Roy Robertson officiating. Burial will be in Wolf Cemetery. Arrangements are under the direction of Swearingen Funeral Home.

Combining these obituaries with the information supplied by La Wana Holder and David Mark Selfridge and the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) gives us this picture of the children of William Barnett Selfridge and Julia Donetta Caton and their descendants:

William Barnett SELFRIDGE + Julia Donetta / Donettie / Nettie CATON Lavena SELFRIDGE d: BEF 2003 + Unknown PETERS Beulah SELFRIDGE d: BEF 2003 + Unknown SMITH Bertha SELFRIDGE d: BEF 2003 + Unknown REDIKER Nevada / Navada SELFRIDGE d: BEF 2003 + Unknown LAWSON Susan Ada SELFRIDGE d: BEF 2003 (did not marry) Willie Donetta / Donettie SELFRIDGE d: BEF 2003 (did not marry) Forest Lemuel (Fred) SELFRIDGE d: BEF 2003 + Unknown UNKNOWN William Kenneth (Bill) SELFRIDGE b: Feb 28, 1945 d: Nov 29, 2003 Seminole, Seminole, OK + Brenda Darlene UNKNOWN David Mark SELFRIDGE of Seminole, OK Don SELFRIDGE of Seminole, OK Mike SELFRIDGE of Oklahoma City. OK Ella Mae SELFRIDGE + Unknown DOBBS of Sallisaw, OK Jeanette SELFRIDGE of Sallisaw, OK Tina SELFRIDGE + Unknown SHIPMAN of Shawnee, OK Julia SELFRIDGE + Unknown FELLOWS of Shawnee, OK Helen SELFRIDGE b: 29 Dc 1917 in Roff, OK d: 13 Dec 2003 in Seminole, OK moved to Seminole, OK in 1926 from Allen, OK + Walter Maxwell DOWNEY (married July 23, 1934 in Seminole, OK) Walter Dale DOWNEY of Seminole, OK Barnett Eugene DOWNEY of Texas William Keith DOWNEY of Crane, Texas Kenneth Ray DOWNEY of Oklahoma City, OK Joyce Darlene DOWNEY + Unknown BURNETT of Seminole, OK La Wana Sue DOWNEY + Darrell HOLDER of Oklahoma City, OK Sharon Kay DOWNEY + Bryce BAKER of New Braunfels, Texas

Note in the above list the strong tendency to keep certain names within the family.

The name Lavena Selfridge harkens back to Lavina Slater, the Cherokee great grandmother of Barney Junior, and to Barney Junior's little sister Rose Lavina Selfridge, who had died in childhood.

The name Beulah Selfridge harkens back to Beulah Slater, Barney Junior's little sister who had died in infancy.

Julia Selfridge takes her name from that of her grandmother Julia Donnetta Caton.

The name Willie Donetta Selfridge harkens back to William Barnett's own name, to the name of Wilhelmina Selfridge, Barney Junior's older sister, and to his wife's middle name Donetta.

Barnett Eugene derives from William Barnett, as do William Keith and William Kenneth. Kenneth Ray Downey seems to have a name echoing that of his cousin William Kenneth Selfridge. There are also a Kenneth Larry and a Kenneth Jay in the descendents of John William Selfridge.

The daughter named Ada was probably born in Ada, Oklahoma, where the family resided at the time.

During Prohibition, William Barnett (Barney Junior) Selfridge was arrested in Ada, Pontotoc County, Oklahoma for transporting illegal liquor. He was found guilty, fined $50.00 and sentenced to 30 days in the County jail. However, the case was not so simple as first appears.

In the first place, as the trial testimony brings out, Barney was a former deputy sheriff who had run for the office of sheriff against the then-current sheriff, Bob Duncan. It was Duncan who arrested Barney, and there is every indication that the warrants sworn out against Barney were part of a vendetta conducted by Bob Duncan.

Barney, his wife Nettie (Julia Donetta), and their children Bertha and Nevada (Navada) were questioned and gave testimony during the trial but their interrogation by the county prosecutor was so improper that Barney's conviction was overturned by the Oklahoma Court of Appeals, and from whence it became an oft-cited piece of Oklahoma case law and a cautionary lesson to prosecuting attorneys to mind their manners in court. Here is a transcript from the Oklahoma Court of Appeals' decision overturning the conviction of William Barnett (Barney Junior) Selfridge for transporting illegal alcohol during Prohibition, including testimony from Nettie Selfridge, Bertha Selfridge, and Ada Selfridge.


The Children of Wilhelmina ("Minnie") Selfridge and James Durham (Durhan)

In 2001, Karen Scarborough posted this message to the genforum board about the descendants of Wilhelmina "Minnie" Selfridge, born in 1868, a younger sister of my husband's great-grandfather, Steven T. Selfridge:

My grandmother was the daughter of Wilhelmina "Minnie"
[Selfridge] and James Durham. Her name was Mary Ann [Durhan
Adams]. We have always believed the last name was spelled
Durham, but it must have been Durhan. Mary Ann
[Durhan Adams] was born May 6, 1898 and died January 9, 1992
and is buried in Vamoosa, Ok. She also had brothers,
but we don't know how many or their names. Her father died
and her mother remarried a man named Gist, we don't know his
first name. They had a daughter named Edith. As far as I know
this was their only child. 
  
I remember Grandmother saying their stepfather was mean and
her brothers ran away from home. She and her half sister
never got along. She married Charles Lee Adams.  
She and Charles Lee Adams had 5 children:

   Lorene Adams
   Minnie Adams
   Howard Adams
   Beatrice Adams and 
   Mary Lee Adams. 
   
Lorene Adams married Rudy Venator. 
Minnie Adams married Lindel VanMeter. 
Howard Adams married Lorene [?].
Beatrice Adams married Robert Childers.
Mary Lee Adams married William Montgomery.
 
All the children are now deceased. 
My mother was Beatrice Adams Childers. 
There are several cousins now trying to trace our family. 
I don't know how much of this you care about, but thought I would add it.

This works out as follows:

Wilhelmina "Minnie" Selfridge
+ James Durham / Durhan
  Mary Ann Durham / Durhan b: May 6, 1898 d: January 9, 1992
  + Charles Lee Adams
    Lorene Adams
    + Rudy Venator
    Minnie Adams
    + Lindel VanMeter
    Howard Adams
    + Lorene Unknown
    Beatrice Adams 
    + Robert Childers
      Karen Childers
      + Unknown Scarborough
    Mary Lee Adams
    + William Montgomery
  Brother 1 Durham / Durhan
  Brother 2 Durham / Durhan
+ Unknown Gist
  Edith Gist


THE SELFRIDGE FAMILY TREE: THE WHOLE NINE YARDS

Putting together all of the above information about the Selfridges and their descendents, from all of the family sources given, and trying to accomodate discrepencies as best possible, here is the current version of the family tree, when viewed as

DESCENDENTS OF THOMAS PATRICK SELFRIDGE

1 Thomas Patrick SELFRIDGE (called Patrick SELFRIDGE in some records) b: c. 1810 in Ireland
+ Julia Rebecca MCDIVITT b: 1810 in Derry, Ireland
  2 Dr. William S. [Stephen?] "Barney" SELFRIDGE born April 4, 1838 or 1840 [1840 more likeley] in 
    Limavady, Derry County, Ireland.
    Emigrated in 1847 (age 7). Taught school in Texas, later practiced medicine 
    (unlicensed in Texas, licensed in Oklahoma). Died February 1, 1912, place of residence
    Thackerville, OK, died in Norman, OK. Buried in Mayhair Cemetery, Sasakwa, Seminole, Oklahoma. 
    + [Mary] Xantippe ("Tippie") Slater. Born 26 Apr 1850 (Rootsweb db:  b. 29 Mar 1850) in Choctaw Corners, Texas. 
    daughter of Stephen T. SLATER (Bull Neck SLATER); student of teacher William S. SELFRIDGE, whom she married.  
    practiced medicine on the Red River; Died in 1883 in Henderson Co., Texas. Buried in Texas. 
    3 Steven Thomas SELFRIDGE [almost always called "S.T."]. Born October 21 1869. 
    + Annie Cecilia (Celia) PATTERSON b: Abt. 1870, 
    daughter of John Winborn PATTERSON b: 18 DEC 1850 d: 18 SEP 1927 and Annie (RILEY?) b: Abt. 1852.
      4 John William (John W. / J.W.) SELFRIDGE b: Oct 28, 1894 Dennison, TX; d: Jan 1974, San Jose, Santa Clara, California
      + Clara Ellen ALLEN b: October 2, 1900 in Conway, AR. d: Mar 1981 San Jose, Santa Clara, California
      daughter of Julie Hale MENEES and James W. ALLEN (See note on Allen Family)
        5 Edgar ("Ed") Allen SELFRIDGE b: March 31, 1918, Sasakwa, OK; d: Feb 1983, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
          + [probably Lenora M. UNKNOWN SELFRIDGE b: 27 Jan 1923, d: 06 Jul 2004, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA; S.S. card issued in California;
          see  Selfridges Requiring Further Look-Ups]
        5 Wayne Harding SELFRIDGE b: August 24, 1920, Sasakwa, OK; d: Jul 24, 1998, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
        5 Neal Thomas SELFRIDGE b: July 28, 1923, Drumright, OK;
        + Unknown Female UNKNOWN
          6 Unknown Male SELFRIDGE
          + Unknown Female UNKNOWN (divorced) (Poster refers to Neal as her ex-father-in-law and mentions her children, plural)
            7 Child 1
            7 Child 2 
        5 Wilburn Lee ("Willie") SELFRIDGE b: November 10, 1926, Seminole, OK; d: 
        5 James William (J. W. / "Major") SELFRIDGE b: July 10, 1931, Seminole, OK; d: Mar 20, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA
          + [probably Jane A. UNKNOWN SELFRIDGE; b: 17 Jan 1933, d: 25 Feb 1995, Modesto, Stanislaus, CA; S.S. card issued in Texas 
          see  Selfridges Requiring Further Look-Ups]
        5 Bobbie Clifford ("Bobby" / "Bob") SELFRIDGE b: February 17, 1934, Seminole, OK; d: Apr 16, 2003, Chandler, Maricopa, AZ 
        5 Ken Larry ("Larry") SELFRIDGE b: October 14, 1940, Seminole, OK.
        + Lora Lee / Lori MASEY b: 26 FEB 1943, Santa Monica, CA 
        daughter of Charles Leroy / Leroy Charles / Roy / Lee C. MASEY 
        b: 15 APR 1906 McMinnville, TN d: 12 DEC 1972, Reseda, Los Angeles, Californa
         Picture of Charles Leroy MASEY age 8
         Picture of Leroy C. MASEY, about age 22
         Picture of Leroy C. MASEY with his sitsers, about age 22
         Picture of Leroy MASEY in his car, about age 30
        and May Olivia MARLES b: May 7, 1911 d: Jan, 1985, Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA
        m: 29 JUL 1960, Santa Cruz CA (Divorced)
          6 Bryan William SELFRIDGE / Nagasiva Bryan W YRONWODE b: 25 OCT 1961
          Picture of Bryan W. SELFRIDGE / Nagasiva Bryan W YRONWODE age 37
          + June PETERSON / June DELANE b: 24 JUN 1963, Milpitas, CA m: 2 AUG 1986 (Divorced)
          + catherine anna MANFREDI / catherine anna YRONWODE b: 12 MAY 1947, San Francisco, CA m: 1 JAN 2000 in Milpitas, CA
          6 Kenneth Jay SELFRIDGE b: 25 NOV 1964, Los Gatos, CA
          + Carla JOHNSON  b: 5 NOV 1959 m: 25 MAY 1996
            7 Taylor McKenzie SELFRIDGE b: 16 AUG 1997 in Los Angeles, CA
        + Second Wife UNKNOWN  m: circa 1975 - 1980
          6 Private Female SELFRIDGE b: circa 1980
      4 James T[homas] (Jim) SELFRIDGE b: Jun 24, 1896 d: Aug 1976 Amarillo, Randall, TX
      + Lillie V. [UNKNOWN] b: c. 1906 Sasakwa, Oklahoma d: July 30, 1998 Amarillo, Randall, TX
      m: 1921 at Holdenville, Oklahoma
      Notes: She was the sister of Thelma UPSHAW of Bakersfield, California; she was buried 
      in Llano Cemetery (Amarillo, Texas). She "had been an Amarillo resident for 35 years" 
      (since 1963). "She was a homemaker and member of the Church of Christ." At her  
      death she had "12 grandchildren; and 15 great-grandchildren" according to her 
      obituary at http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/potter/obits/1998/31jul98.txt --
      where her children with Jim Selfridge were listed by gender, not by birth-order, as
        5 [William?] Bill SELFRIDGE of Howardwick, Texas 
        (Is this possibly William G. SELFRIDGE, listed at the SSDI as b: 02 Aug 1935, 
        ss issued in Oklahoma, d: 10 Mar 1998 (age 62) in Dallas, Dallas, TX -- ???)        
        5 Dale SELFRIDGE of Amarillo, Texas (He wrote the article on Stephen Slater quoted herein)
        5 Mildred SELFRIDGE of Seattle, Washington
        + [Unknown] CHURCHMAN 
        5 Chersie SELFRIDGE of Bonham, Texas
        + [Unknown] DAVIS 
        5 Juanita SELFRIDGE of Enid, Oklahoma
        + [Unknown] WILLIAMS
        5 Naomi SELFRIDGE of Pryor, Oklahoma
        + [Unknown] WHELESS                
    + Lula ROBINSON b: m: March 9, 1905 d: 
    + Louise GARMON / GORMAN b: m: d: 
    The following are the children of Steven Thomas SELFRIDGE and Lula ROBINSON (2nd wife)
    or Steven Thomas SELFRIDGE and Louise GORAMN / GARMAN (3rd wife). We know that the 
    second marriage took place in 1905, so any birth date after 1905 would have had Lula 
    or Louise as the mother. If we had Lula ROBINSON's death date and their birthdates, 
    we could sort the children out. At this point, however, all we have is a list of names. 
    (See note on The Wives and Children of Steven Thomas Selfridge.)
      4 B. Alex SELRIDGE [Barney Alex SELFRIDGE ?]
      4 Ida SELRIDGE
      4 Lyda SELRIDGE
      4 Robert (Robbie) SELRIDGE 
      4 Lola SELRIDGE
      4 Mollie SELRIDGE
      4 Cora SELRIDGE 
      4 Nora SELRIDGE 
      4 Furman SELRIDGE b: Apr 10, 1916 d: Nov 1977, Konawa, Seminole, OK
      + Unknown Female UNKNOWN
        5 Unknown Female SEFRIDGE
        + Unknown Male FUQUA
          6 Maronda FUQUA 
    3 Wilhelmina ("Minnie") SELFRIDGE, born in 1868, Clay's Creek, Milano, Texas. 
    + Married James DURHAN / DURHAM.
      4 Mary Ann DURHAN / DURHAM b: May 6, 1898 d: January 9, 1992
      + Charles Lee AAMS
        5 Lorene ADAMS
        + Rudy VENATOR
        5 Minnie ADAMS
        + Lindel VANMETER
        5 Howard ADAMS
        + Lorene UNKNOWN
        5 Beatrice ADAMS 
        + Robert CHILDERS
          6 Karen CHILDERS
          + Unknown SCARBOROUGH
        5 Mary Lee ADAMS
        + William MONTGOMERY
      4 Brother 1 DURHAN / DURHAM
      4 Brother 2 DURHAN / DURHAM
    + Unknown GIST
      4 Edith GIST
    3 Eugina / Eugenie ("Jay") SELFRIDGE, b. 1871
    3 Charles Francis ("Frank") SELFRIDGE b: Jun 24, 1873, Commanche Co., Texas. d: Dec 15, 1957 Ardmore, Carter, OK 
    + Married Mary ELY b: Oct 5, 1885, Franklin Co. MO; d: Feb 13 (Feb 15 - SSDI) 1972, Ardmore, Carter, OK
    m: October 20, 1904
      4 Charles F. SELRIDGE b: Aug 29,1905 d: Oct 29, 1919
      4 Jennie SELRIDGE b: Oct 02, 1908 d: 
      Conducted interviews for the Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma (Federal Writers Project), 1936-1937. 
      (See note on The Children of Charles Francis ("Frank") Selfridge and Mary Ely
      + Marvin BYROM b: Jan 10, 1918 (SSDI); m: 29 Dec, 1937; d: Dec 11, 1999 Mineral Springs, Howard, AR (SSDI)
        5 Roberta BYROM b: Aug 10, 1939
        + Alan ABBE m: Mar 25, 1961 (SSDI has one b: Dec 20 1932, d: May 1987, Somers, TOlland, CT -- pretty far from OK and TX --cat)
          6 Alan II ABBE b: Dec 7, 1963
          + Erin WALKER m: Aug 6,1994
            7 Kai ABBE b: Oct 18, 1995
            7 Kyra ABBE b: Feb 12, 1997
            7 Kasey ABBE b: May 24,1999 
          6 Laura ABBE b: Jan 20,1965
          6 Michael ABBE b: May 5, 1976
        5 Lawrence (Larry) BYROM b: Feb 9-12 1953 [incompehensible date, and there are several in SSDI - cat]
      4 Baby Boy SELFRIDGE b: Aug 31, 1910 d: -
      4 Twin Boy 1 SELFRIDGE b: June 8, 1911 d: -
      4 Twin Boy 2 SELFRIDGE b: June 8, 1911 d: -
      4 Ruby SELFRIDGE b: Sep 8, 1912 d: Feb 23, 1922
      4 Fay SELFRIDGE b: - d: -
      4 Mary SELFRIDGE b: Feb 7-11, 1918 d: - [incompehensible date - cat]
      4 Sybil SELFRIDGE b: Aug 2-14, 1920 d: - [incompehensible date - cat]
      4 Sylvia SELFRIDGE b: Aug 2-16, 1920 d: - [incompehensible date - cat]
      4 Doris SELFRIDGE b: Apr 9, 1922 d: -
      4 Opal SELFRIDGE b: May 22, 1925 d: -
        [Note SSDI has another Opal SELFRIDGE 06 Jan 1911 - Mar 1982 (Seminole, Seminole, OK) -- related?]
    3 William Barnett ("Barney" / "Barney Junior") SELFRIDGE. b: 1875; d: 
    + Julia Donetta / Donettie / Nettie  CATON b: ;m: 24 Dec 1899; d: 
    (As "W. B. Selfridge," age 25 of Allen, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, 
    he married "Nettie Coton" (Julia Donetta CATON), age 20, of Allen, 24 Dec 1898 or 1899.)
    (There are many, many people named CATON in the SSDI with registrations from Oklahoma; her family not yet researched --cat)
    (Arrested for transporting liquor during Prohibition and his conviction overturned 
    in what became a famous piece of Oklahoma case law involving his wife and daughters as well)
      4 Lavena SELFRIDGE b: c 1900 d: BEF 2003
      + Unknown PETERS
      4 Beulah SELFRIDGE b: c 1902 d: BEF 2003
      + Unknown SMITH
      4 Bertha SELFRIDGE b: c 1904 d: BEF 2003
      + Unknown REDIKER
      4 Navada L. SELFRIDGE (sometimes spelled Nevada SELFRIDGE) b: Mar 28, 1905; d: Jan 25, 1994, Vancouver, Clark, WA [SSDI]
      + Unknown LAWSON m: 
      4 Susan Ada SELFRIDGE b: c 1908 d: BEF 2003 [Not in SSDI --cat]
      (did not marry)
      4 Willie Donetta / Donettie SELFRIDGE b: c 1910 d: BEF 2003
      (did not marry)
      4 Forest Lemuel (Fred) SELFRIDGE b: Jan 11 1912, d: Sep 1980 Seminole, Seminole, OK
      + Unknown UNKNOWN [probably Opal UNKNOWN SELFRIDGE b: 06 Jan 1911 d: Mar 1982 Seminole, Seminole, OK]
        5 William Kenneth (Bill) SELFRIDGE b: Feb 28, 1945 d: Nov 29, 2003 Seminole, Seminole, OK
        + Brenda Darlene UNKNOWN
          6 David Mark SELFRIDGE of Seminole, OK
        5 Don SELFRIDGE of Seminole, OK 
        5 Mike SELFRIDGE of Oklahoma City. OK
        5 Ella Mae SELFRIDGE
        + Unknown DOBBS of Sallisaw, OK
        5 Jeanette SELFRIDGE of Sallisaw, OK
        5 Tina SELFRIDGE
        + Unknown SHIPMAN of Shawnee, OK 
        5 Julia SELFRIDGE 
        + Unknown FELLOWS of Shawnee, OK 
      4 Helen SELFRIDGE b: 29 Dc 1917 in Roff, OK d: 13 Dec 2003 in Seminole, OK
      moved to Seminole, OK in 1926 from Allen, OK
      + Walter Maxwell DOWNEY b: ; m: Jul 23, 1934 in Seminole, OK 
        5 Walter Dale DOWNEY of Seminole, OK
        5 Barnett Eugene DOWNEY of Texas
        5 William Keith DOWNEY of Crane, Texas 
        5 Kenneth Ray DOWNEY of Oklahoma City, OK
        5 Joyce Darlene DOWNEY
        + Unknown BURNETT of Seminole, OK
        5 La Wana Sue DOWNEY
        + Darrell HOLDER of Oklahoma City, OK
        5 Sharon Kay DOWNEY
        + Bryce BAKER of New Braunfels, Texas
    3 James (Jim) McDivitt SELFRIDGE. b: October 5, 1877 in Gonzales, Texas.
    + Married Lulu [UNKNOWN], b: March 1882 in Texas. 
      4 Charles R. SELFRIDGE, b: June 8 1899 in Indian Territory; d: Apr 1966 Dallas, TX
    3 Pearl Rebecca SELFRIDGE. b: February 20, 1879 in Texas. 
    + Married Lee AUTRY.
    3 Rose Lavina SELFRIDGE. b: 1879 or 1880 in Milam Co., Texas; d: June 24, 1882, Athens, Texas. 
    3 Mary Jane SELFRIDGE. b: 1881 Kaufman, Texas; d: 1884
    3 Beulah SELFRIDGE. b: February 3, 1884, Athens, Texas; d:  September 26, 1884.
    3 Bessie SELFRIDGE. b: February 3, 1884, Athens, Texas; d:  March 10, 1884.


Selfridges Requiring Further Look-Ups

The following names come from the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) for people with the surname Selfridge whose social security cards were issued in Oklahoma, Texas, or California. Some of them have been logged above, others have not. Any further information on these likely relatives would be greatly appreciated.

Rather than arrange them alphabetically, i have aarraned them by State in which S.S. card was issued, then by date of birth.

Those with an asterisk (*) after their name are in the "Whole Nine Yards."

Name                Birth        Death       Last Residence                      SS#       Isseued in

SOPHIA SELFRIDGE     09 May 1884     Sep 1977 75243 (Dallas, Dallas, TX)          445-26-5501 Oklahoma (died in Dallas)
MARY SELFRIDGE       05 Oct 1885  15 Feb 1972 73401 (Ardmore, Carter, OK)         441-24-4977 Oklahoma 
MARY SELFRIDGE       16 Oct 1891     Apr 1973 74801 (Shawnee, Pottawatomie, OK)   446-26-2277 Oklahoma 
JOHN SELFRIDGE*      28 Oct 1894     Jan 1974 95127 (San Jose, Santa Clara, CA)   441-09-1744 Oklahoma 
JAMES SELFRIDGE*     24 Jun 1896     Aug 1976 79110 (Amarillo, Randall, TX)       445-24-4019 Oklahoma 
CY SELFRIDGE         21 Aug 1901     Jun 1975 74848 (Holdenville, Hughes, OK)     443-32-9841 Oklahoma 
PAUL SELFRIDGE       19 Mar 1902     Jul 1971 73554 (Mangum, Greer, OK)           441-22-4291 Oklahoma (married to Mabel)
MABEL V SELFRIDGE    28 May 1905  08 Jan 1998 73554 (Mangum, Greer, OK)           442-46-7005 Oklahoma (married to Paul)
IRENE SELFRIDGE      02 Jul 1910  10 Jan 1998 75075 (Plano, Collin, TX)           444-01-5852 Oklahoma 
STEVE F SELFRIDGE    01 Sep 1910  24 Jun 1988 73717 (Alva, Woods, OK)             440-22-2554 Oklahoma (died in Alva)
OPAL SELFRIDGE       06 Jan 1911     Mar 1982 74868 (Seminole, Seminole, OK)      445-72-7574 Oklahoma 
FRED SELFRIDGE*      11 Jan 1912     Sep 1980 74868 (Seminole, Seminole, OK)      443-03-9714 Oklahoma 
FURMAN SELFRIDGE*    10 Apr 1916     Nov 1977 74849 (Konawa, Seminole, OK)        444-05-5307 Oklahoma 
EDGAR SELFRIDGE*     31 Mar 1918     Feb 1983 95351 (Modesto, Stanislaus, CA)     441-09-1743 Oklahoma (died in Modesto)
HELEN G SELFRIDGE    06 Jul 1920     May 1994 73717 (Alva, Woods, OK)             443-50-3305 Oklahoma (died in Alva)
EVALENA SELFRIDGE    04 Sep 1920     May 1987 73717 (Alva, Woods, OK)             448-12-8545 Oklahoma (died in Alva)
DOROTHY E SELFRIDGE  31 Oct 1923  01 Jan 2004 95641 (Isleton, Sacramento, CA)     444-16-6444 Oklahoma 
WILLIAM G SELFRIDGE  02 Aug 1935  10 Mar 1998 75217 (Dallas, Dallas, TX)          448-34-2624 Oklahoma (died in Dallas)
LYNDELL P SELFRIDGE  09 May 1940  22 Jun 2004 87105 (Albuquerque, Bernalillo, NM) 448-38-9147 Oklahoma
HARRY SELFRIDGE      03 Mar 1944  16 Aug 2007 74467 (Wagoner, Wagoner, OK)        442-46-7006 Oklahoma (twin)
LARRY W SELFRIDGE    03 Mar 1944  29 Dec 2005 79311 (Abernathy, Hale, TX)         442-46-7007 Oklahoma (twin)
DAVID A SELFRIDGE    19 Oct 1964  06 Jun 2006       (Nevada)                      444-76-3834 Oklahoma 

CHARLES SELFRIDGE*   08 Jun 1899     Apr 1966 75211 (Dallas, Dallas, TX)          456-09-7151 Texas (married to Flora)
FLORA SELFRIDGE      26 Oct 1899     Apr 1966 75211 (Dallas, Dallas, TX)          449-34-7197 Texas (married to Charles)
EUSTACE SELFRIDGE    02 Mar 1908  25 Feb 2004 75228 (Dallas, Dallas, TX)          453-20-6716 Texas 
FRANK W SELFRIDGE    09 Dec 1913  03 Oct 1990                                     462-12-6757 Texas 
MARY E SELFRIDGE     09 Nov 1923  17 Jul 2001 77008 (Houston, Harris, TX)         464-24-7517 Texas 
JANE A SELFRIDGE     17 Jan 1933  25 Feb 1995 95358 (Modesto, Stanislaus, CA)     460-60-4865 Texas (died in Modesto) 
EVELYNE SELFRIDGE    25 Feb 1940  31 Jan 2004 95367 (Riverbank, Stanislaus, CA)   461-64-2523 Texas 
WILLIAM K SELFRIDGE* 28 Feb 1945  29 Nov 2003 74818 (Seminole, Seminole, OK)      460-72-6416 Texas 
CALEB L SELFRIDGE    31 Aug 1999  13 Jul 2004 77511 (Alvin, Brazoria, TX)         631-68-4871 Texas

JOHN SELFRIDGE       02 Jun 1889     Nov 1978 94904 (Greenbrae, Marin, CA)        546-03-8077 California (died in Greenbrae)
WILBER SELFRIDGE     08 Apr 1890     Sep 1971 92601 (California)                  547-48-1084 California 
VIRGINIA SELFRIDGE   04 May 1891     Jan 1973 94904 (Greenbrae, Marin, CA)        546-72-6823 California (died in Greenbrae) 
HARRY SELFRIDGE      11 Jan 1897     Jun 1967 91205 (Glendale, Los Angeles, CA)   546-01-6769 California 
ANN SELFRIDGE        04 Dec 1898     Sep 1982 93010 (Camarillo, Ventura, CA)      546-30-1006 California 
MAE SELFRIDGE        14 Dec 1900     Feb 1982 07423 (Ho Ho Kus, Bergen, NJ)       549-01-1253 California 
GERTRUDE SELFRIDGE   25 Apr 1903     Apr 1977 92122 (San Diego, San Diego, CA)    553-21-6412 California 
TINA M SELFRIDGE     15 Jan 1907  15 Jul 1994 32828 (Orlando, Orange, FL)         548-21-5305 California 
MARY SELFRIDGE       22 Aug 1909     May 1986 93001 (Ventura, Ventura, CA)        548-58-6864 California 
AMY E SELFRIDGE      26 Dec 1909  06 Apr 1990                                     557-30-3195 California 
HARRY SELFRIDGE      09 Dec 1909     Mar 1966 90814 (Long Beach, Los Angeles, CA) 551-40-9496 California 
HAZEL B SELFRIDGE    13 Mar 1915  29 Sep 1993 95531 (Crescent City, Del Norte, CA)559-07-0599 California 
THEODORE SELFRIDGE   08 Feb 1918     Sep 1966                                     547-24-3437 California 
LOIS B SELFRIDGE     20 Jan 1922  02 Jun 1988 67576 (Saint John, Stafford, KS)    558-28-9575 California 
LENORA M SELFRIDGE   27 Jan 1923  06 Jul 2004 95351 (Modesto, Stanislaus, CA)     551-34-2386 California (died in Modesto) 
GEORGE SELFRIDGE     10 Jun 1926     Jul 1984 92649 (Huntington Beach, Orange, CA)548-20-8403 California 
JAMES W SELFRIDGE*   10 Jul 1931  20 Mar 1996 95354 (Modesto, Stanislaus, CA)     558-36-9610 California (died in Modesto)
BOBBY C SELFRIDGE*   17 Feb 1934  16 Apr 2003 85224 (Chandler, Maricopa, AZ)      551-42-5228 California 
HARRY SELFRIDGE      17 Nov 1943     Dec 1976                                     547-58-5526 California 
KIRK SELFRIDGE       21 Dec 1962  30 Oct 1999 92649 (Huntington Beach, Orange, CA)548-45-8393 California 
Note that by birth and death dates, it is highly probable that Flora was the wife of Charles, both of Dallas, Texas; it is likely that Charles was the son of William G. and Sophia, both of whom were from Oklamhoma, but also died in Dallas.

Note that Evalena, Helen G., and Steve F. all died in the small town of Alva, Oklahoma. Because Evalena and Helen G. were born only two months apart, they cannot be sisters; 3 possibilities come to mind: (1) they were cousins; (2) one of the two married Steve F. and aqcquired the Selfridge surname through marriage while the other was Steve F.'s sister who remained unamrried; (3) they were both Steve F.'s wives, either through divorce or because when Evalena died in 1987, Steve F. remarried to Helen G.

Note that Mabel V. and Paul both died in the small town of Magnum, Oklahoma, and are close enough in age to have been married.

Note that Edgar (born in 1918), Lenora (born in 1923), James W. (born in 1931), and Jane (born in 1933) all died in Modesto, California. Edgar and James W. were brothers born in Oklahoma; the S. S. card for Lenora was issued in California, as was the S. S. card for James W. The S. S. card for Jane was issued in Texas. One can presume that Lenora and Jane were the wives of the two brothers, and, based on dates of birth, it is likely that Lenora was the wife of Edgar and Jane was the wife of James W.

Note that Fred (Forest Lemuel) and his son William K. both died in Seminole, Oklahoma, as did Opal, who by birthdate was probably Fred's wife, listed on the "Whole Nine Yards" as "Unknown."

Note that Larry and Harry (the Harry whose card was issued in Oklahoma) were both born on the same date and can be assumed to be twin brothers.


The Gillelands and Boatwrights: the Gaelic Connection

When Dr. Barney Selfridge left Ireland for Texas in the 19th century and married the daughter of a Cherokee Indian Scout, he was also marrying into her mother's heritage -- and, like his, that too was Gaelic, a mixture of Irish and Scottish roots. Xantippe Slater's mother, Mary Gilleland, descended from Irish Americans who had settled in Virginia in the 1700s; Xantippe's great great grandfather James Gilleland (then spelled Gilliland) had served in the American Revolution as an Army private.

The name Gilleland is a difficult one to track, due to it having been Gaelic and thus transliterated into English in many variant spellings, but for a WHOLE LOT more about the Scottish and Irish Gilleland name -- MacGill'fhaolain in Gaelic, and also spelled Mcgill'olane, Macgillelane, Gilliland, Gilliand, Gilland, Gillelan, Gilland, Gillyelan, Gillilan, Gilfilane, Gilfilan, Gilfelain, Gilfilland, Gill'fhaolain, and Gylfhalan -- see the Clan Gilliland web site at:

http://www.clangilliland.com

At that site i learned that Mac means "son of," or "of the clan of," Gille is an ancient Gaelic prefix meaning "steward, disciple, follower," or "son of," and Fhaolain means "Little Wolf." Thus, the earliest form of the name, MacGill'fhaolain, literally translates as "Of the Clan of Disciples of the Little Wolf."

However, the name "Little Wolf" probably refers to the Scottish historical personage St. Fillan (also spelled Fhaolain or Foelan), the son of St. Kentigerna and Feriach, who was an abbot near St. Andrews in the 8th Century. The name Gilleland is thought to have arisen among the followers of Saint Fillan and to best be translated as "Disciple of Fillan."

Returning to the Gillelands who settled in Texas in the 19th century:

As noted above, in the section titled The Milam County Federal Census of 1850, this census provides information about the birth family of Mary GILLELAND Slater. Note that the spelling is Gilliland here; it varied considerably during this time in Texas. The page is online at --
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/milam/census/1850/0016b.gif

Daniel Gilliland    55    m   farmer    Virginia        0016b 434 450
Pricilla Gilliland  47    f             Illinois        0016b 434 450
William Gilliland   25    m   farmer    Texas           0016b 434 450
John Gilliland      17    m             Texas           0016b 434 450
Daniel Gilliland    15    m             Texas           0016b 434 450
James Gilliland     15    m             Texas           0016b 434 450
Alexander Gilliland 15    m             Texas           0016b 434 450
Felix Gilliland     15    m             Texas           0016b 434 450

Missing from the above family listing is Mary GILLELAND Slater, as she was already married and living elsewhere in Milam County in a household with her husband Stephen T. SLATER and their four children. The Slaters were enumerated as follows in he Milam County Federal Census of 1850, online at --
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tx/milam/census/1850/0017a.gif

Stephen T. Slater   28    m   farmer    Tennessee      0017a 436 452
Mary Slater         21    f             Arkansas       0017a 436 452
Eugene Slater        4    m             Texas          0017a 436 452
Thomas Slater        3    m             Texas          0017a 436 452
Kantippe Slater      1/12 f             Texas          0017a 436 452
Lavina Slater       64    f             Kentucky       0017a 436 452

Note that Kantippe is Xantippe. She is not yet called Mary Xantippe, because her mother, Mary GILLELAND, is still alive; she was given her mother's first name after her mother's death.

Next, before proceding to the following records, it must be noted that all references to "Miller County, Arkansas" or "Miller, Arkansas territory" prior to 1836 may actually refer to places that are currently part of Texas. This is important to understand in connection with the migrations of the Gilliland family. A brief history of Miller County, Arkansas at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_County,_Arkansas#Cities_and_towns

explains that:

Miller County was originally created in 1820 and included most of the current Miller County as well as most of what are now counties in Texas: Bowie, Red River, Lamar, Fannin, Cass, Morris, Titus, Franklin, Hopkins, Delta, and Hunt. In 1831 the county seat was located what is the current day Clarksville, Texas. When Arkansas achieved statehood the same year Texas declared itself an independent republic in 1836 a dispute over the common border arose, with the area in Miller County having representation in both the Arkansas legislature and the Texas congress. In 1837 and 1838, Texas organized Red River and Fannin counties, respectively, in the area. Arkansas attempted to counter by making it a misdemeanor for Miller County residents to hold office in Texas, and then by establishing a county court in Fannin. The attempts were ultimately unsuccessful, and in 1845 Texas was annexed by the United States, settling the boundary between Texas and Arkansas. As much of Miller County was lost to Texas, the county was dissolved with the remaining territory returning to Lafayette County.

The modern Miller County was re-created in 1874 from the parts of Lafayette County lying west and south of the Red River.

From the Gilleland family website at http://www.bchm.org/Gene/d0001/g0006819.html and other related pages comes this further genealogy of Xantippe Slater, which i have augmented with information supplied by Roberta Abbe.

Mary Gilleland 

23 Jan 1827 - 7 Jan 1852

       BIRTH: 23 Jan 1827 in Arkansas
       DEATH: 7 Jan 1852 in Texas
       REFERENCE: Gil021 

Father: DANIEL GILLELAND 
Mother: Precilla Boatwright 

Family 1 : Stephen Thomas Slater 

       MARRIAGE: 13 Nov 1843, , Montgomery, Texas 

     1. Eugene Slater 
     2. Thomas Slater 
     3. Mary Xantippe Slater 
     4. Stephen D. Slater 
     

                        _William Gilleland _+
 _DANIEL GILLELAND ____|
|                      |_Nancy Johnson _____
|
|--Mary Gilleland 
|
|                       __[Thomas Boatwright]__
|_Precilla Boatwright _|
                       |____________________ [note, said to be Amy [Unknown] 
                                             in The Handbook of Texas Online
                                             http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/GG/fgi19.html
                                             other sources list her surname as 
                                             RUSHING, with a father named Richard 
                                             RUSHING and a mother Unknown UNKNOWN. 
                                             -- catherine.] 
                      
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Precilla Boatwright 

[1978] 

20 Jun 1803 - 9 May 1873

       BIRTH: 20 Jun 1803, , , Illinois Terr. 
       DEATH: 9 May 1873, , Milam, Texas 
       BURIAL: Family Cemetery, Milam, Texas 
       REFERENCE: Boat001 

Father:  [Thomas Boatwright]
Mother:  [Note, said to be Amy [Unknown] in The Handbook of Texas Online
         http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/GG/fgi19.html
 		 other sources list her surname as RUSHING, with a father named Richard 
         RUSHING and a mother Unknown UNKNOWN. -- catherine.]
         
Family 1 : DANIEL GILLELAND 

       MARRIAGE: 3 Feb 1819, Jonesborough, Miller, Ark. Terr. 
        [Note: Jonesboro, AR (oringinally spelled
        Jonesborough) is not in Miller County, AR and never
        was. Jonesboro, founded in 1815 is now the county
        seat of Craighead County, which was formed in 1859
        out of portions of Greene County, Mississippi
        County, and Poinsett County. I believe they were
        married in Miller County, not in Jonesboro.
        --catherine]
 
     1. Lewis Gilleland 
        (Born in 1820, Miller Co. Arkansas. Died in 1821 in Arkansas) 
     2.+Sarah Gilleland 
        (Born in 1821, Miller Co. Arkansas. Died in 1894. Married Wm Hall.)
     3.+William Gilleland 
        (Born in 1823, Cedar Creek, Washington, Texas , Died in 1897.
     4. Thomas Gilleland  
        (Born in 1825. Died in 1848. Married Rebecca Allen)
     5.+Mary Gilleland 
        (Born January 1827. Died January 7, 1852. Married Stephen T. Slater)
     6.+Nancy Gilleland 
     7.+John Henry Gilleland 
     8. Amy Gilleland 
     9.+Daniel Gilleland 
    10. James Gilleland 
    11. Felix Gilleland 
    12.+Alexander M. Gilleland 
    13.+Felix Grundy Gilleland 

                        __
 __[Thomas Boatwright]-|
|                      |__
|
|--Precilla Boatwright 
|
|                       __
|__[Amy Boatwright]----|     [aka Amy Rushing]
                       |__
   
[1978] Daughter of Thomas Boatwright, one of the Old Three Hundred. 
!BIRTH; Tombstone in Gilleland Cemetery, Rockdale, TX 
!DEATH: Tombstone in Gilleland Cemetery, Rockdale, TX 
   
   [MUCH MORE ON DANIEL GILLELAND BELOW]
   
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DANIEL GILLELAND 

[1976] 

9 Jun 1795 - 12 Jan 1873

       BIRTH: 9 Jun 1795, Virginia 
       DEATH: 12 Jan 1873, Milam, Texas 
       BURIAL: Family Cemetery, Milam, Texas 
       EVENT: Misc event: 1821, La Bahia Crossing 
       EVENT: LAND GRANT: 26 Apr 1831, Fort Bend County, set aside by Decree of Court [1977] 
       EVENT: 1 labor (177.1 Acres)
       LAND GRANT: 3 Aug 1824, Austin Partner Thomas Davis and James Frazier 
       REFERENCE: Gil012 

Father: William Gilleland 
Mother: Nancy Johnson 

Family 1 : Precilla Boatwright 

       MARRIAGE: 3 Feb 1819, , Miller, Ark. Terr. 

     1. Lewis Gilleland 
     2.+Sarah Gilleland 
     3.+William Gilleland 
     4. Thomas Gilleland 
     5.+Mary Gilleland 
     6.+Nancy Gilleland 
     7.+John Henry Gilleland 
     8. Amy Gilleland 
     9.+Daniel Gilleland 
    10. James Gilleland 
    11. Felix Gilleland 
    12.+Alexander M. Gilleland 
    13.+Felix Grundy Gilleland 
    
[1976] !Daniel was one of Stephen F. Austin's "Old Three Hundred", arriving 
in Texas in 1821. Records in Texas Archives. 
!BIRTH: Family Bible in possession of Patricia Gilleland Young, 
Abilene, TX. 
!DEATH: Tombstone in Gilleland cemetery, Rockdale, TX.
(Roberta Abbe adds: "Precilla and Daniel are buried in the Gilleland
Cemetery in Milam Co. Texas. It is on private land, but about once a
year there is a pilgrimage by the descendants to the gravesite.")
!MARRIAGE: Recorded in Family Bible. Route to Texas: From Red River 
settlements 

Flags: Original 300=Y 

[1977] 1 Lg. 4428.4 ac Texas Gen Land Office 
                      
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Nancy Johnson 

1773 - AFT 1850

       BIRTH: 1773 
       BIRTH: 1773, , , Virginia 
       DEATH: AFT 1850 
       DEATH: , Travis, Texas 
       BURIAL: Moore Fam. Cem., Travis, Texas 
       REFERENCE: John001 

Family 1 : William Gilleland 

     1.+Sarah Gilleland 

Family 2 : Thomas Williams 

       MARRIAGE: 1802 

     1.+THOMAS JOHNSON WILLIAMS 
     2. Benjamin Williams 
     3. Mary Williams 
     4. Nancy Williams 

Family 3 : William Gilleland 

       MARRIAGE: 26 Sep 1792, , Prince Edward, Virginia 

     1. Robert Gilleland 
     2.+DANIEL GILLELAND 
     3.+Sarah Gilleland 
     4.+James Gilleland 

Family 4 : Thomas Williams 

       MARRIAGE: 15 Sep 1802, , Davidson, Tennessee 

     1. Benjamin Williams 
     2. Thomas Johnson Williams 
     3. Nancy Williams 
     4. Mary Diane Williams 
     
[Note from catherine: This record gives two versions of Nancy
Johnson's two marriages. Family 1 (marriage to William Gilleland)
is a less complete version of Family 3. Family 2 (marriage to
Thomas Williams) is a differently sequenced version of Family 4.
Only the siblings in Family 1 / Family 3 are related to the
Selfridge family, through descent from Daniel Gilleland.]

    __
 __|
|  |__
|
|--Nancy Johnson 
|
|   __
|__|
   |__
                      
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William Gilleland 

[2006] 

7 Oct 1770 - Jul 1800

       BIRTH: 7 Oct 1770, , , Pennsylvania 
       DEATH: Jul 1800, , Davidson, Tennessee 
       REFERENCE: Gil030 

Father: James Gilleland 
Mother: Susannah Young 

Family 1 : Nancy Johnson 

       MARRIAGE: 26 Sep 1792, , Prince Edward, Virginia 

     1. Robert Gilleland 
     2.+DANIEL GILLELAND 
     3.+Sarah Gilleland 
     4.+James Gilleland 

                    __
 _James Gilleland _|
|                  |__
|
|--William Gilleland 
|
|                   __
|_Susannah Young __|
                   |__
                   
[2006] MARRIAGE: William Gilleland's marriage to Nancy Johnson is recorded 
in Prince Edward County, Virginia, marriage records, received from County 
records and verified by records from "Early Marriages in the State of Virginia", 
Hunting for Bears, Salt Lake City, Utah. 

DEATH: William's will is recorded in Davidson County, Tennessee, Will 
book #4, page 188, dated April 29, 1800, recorded August 23, 1800. 
                                      
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James Gilleland 
[2019] 

1 Aug 1745 - Jul 1810

       BIRTH: 1 Aug 1745, , Lancaster, Pennsylvania 
       DEATH: Jul 1810, , Botetourt, Virginia 
       REFERENCE: Gil034 

Family 1 : Susannah Young 

       MARRIAGE: 1767, , Lancaster, Pennsylvania 

     1. John Gilleland 
     2.+William Gilleland 
     3. Jenny Jane Gilleland 
     4. Samuel Gilleland 
     5. Henry Gilleland 
     6. Nancy Gilleland 
     7. Susannah Gilleland 
     8. James Gilleland 
     9. Shephard Gilleland 
    10. Sarah (Sally) Gilleland 
    11. Joseph Gilleland 
    12. Elizabeth Gilleland 
    13. Mary (Polly) Gilleland 
    
    __
 __|
|  |__
|
|--James Gilleland 
|
|   __
|__|
   |__
    
[2019] James is supposed to have served in the American Revolution. 
Documentation not yet verified. 

A note from catherine:

Elsewhere on the web i find the surname spelled Gilliland, the
birth year as 1748 rather than 1745 and the wife's name spelled
Susanna rather than Susannah, along with the information that
James Gilliland served as a private in Virginia, during the
American Revolution, according to DAR records:

James [Gilliland]: b 1748 PA d 1810 VA m Susanna Young Pvt VA 

from:
http://216.239.33.104/search?q=cache:v2vHveNjATMJ:members.aol.com/gillnote/gnote09.htm+gilleland+pennsylvania+james+1810+1745&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
                        
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    Susannah Young 

1750 - 18 Jun 1842

       BIRTH: 1750 
       DEATH: 18 Jun 1842, , Augusta, Virginia 
       REFERENCE: Gil035 

Family 1 : James Gilleland 

       MARRIAGE: 1767, , Lancaster, Pennsylvania 

     1. John Gilleland 
     2.+William Gilleland 
     3. Jenny Jane Gilleland 
     4. Samuel Gilleland 
     5. Henry Gilleland 
     6. Nancy Gilleland 
     7. Susannah Gilleland 
     8. James Gilleland 
     9. Shephard Gilleland 
    10. Sarah (Sally) Gilleland 
    11. Joseph Gilleland 
    12. Elizabeth Gilleland 
    13. Mary (Polly) Gilleland 

    __
 __|
|  |__
|
|--Susannah Young 
|
|   __
|__|
   |__

                      
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There is LOTS of information available about Daniel Gilleland, Texas settler and slave owner:

This comes verbatim from

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/GG/fgi19.html

and is copied here because web pages are transient and it would be a shame to see it go 404. I have broken the long paragraphs up a bit for ease of reading. The official citation is: "GILLELAND, DANIEL." The Handbook of Texas Online. [Accessed Tue Sep 23 23:47:19 US/Central 2003 ].

GILLELAND, DANIEL (1795-1873). Daniel Gilleland, early Texas
settler, son of William and Nancy (Johnson) Gilleland, was born
in Virginia on June 9, 1795. His father died in 1800, and in
September 1802 Nancy Gilleland married Thomas Williams, qv. The
family then moved to Arkansas Territory. By 1817 they had settled
on Williams Creek, a tributary of the Red River. During this time
Daniel, his brother James Gilleland, qv, and brother-in-law
Robert H. Kuykendall, Sr., qv, became Indian traders and
buffalo hunters. [Note: Williams Creek is a stream in
Hempstead and Dallas Counties, Arkasas. It is east of Hope,
and northeast of Texarkana, AR.]

On February 3, 1819, Gilleland married Precilla Boatwright
in Old Miller County, Arkansas Territory, probably at
Jonesboro. [Note: Jonesboro, AR (oringinally spelled
Jonesborough) is not in Miller County, AR and never was.
Jonesboro, founded in 1815 is now the county seat of
Craighead County, which was formed in 1859 out of portions
of Greene County, Mississippi County, and Poinsett County. I
believe they were married in Miller County, not in
Jonesboro. --catherine]

The couple and their infant daughter, along with Precilla's
parents, Amy and Thomas Boatwright, qv, their children, and
Sarah Gilleland Kuykendall and her husband, Robert, departed
for Texas on October 18, 1821, and formed the vanguard of
what came to be known as the Old Three Hundred, qv.

The Gilleland-Boatwright-Kuykendall party, accompanied by
other families, followed the Old San Antonio Road, qv, and
arrived at the Brazos River just south of the site of the
future Washington in late December 1821. Gilleland,
accompanied by Robert and Joseph Kuykendall, qv, first
headed downriver, then followed the La Bahia Road, qv, to
the place where it crossed the Colorado River. They pitched
camp near the site of present-day Columbus on Christmas Day,
1821. Afterward, the Gilleland family settled for a time on
the Colorado River and claimed land there for farming and
raising cattle.

In the first election in Austin's colony, held in November
1822, Daniel Gilleland was one of a handful of settlers to
cast a vote. He and his wife and daughter are listed on the
census of those living in Colorado Municipality taken in
March 1823, and he was one of fourteen men who elected James
Cummins, qv, the first alcalde, qv, of the District of
Colorado in August of that same year.

In 1824 Gilleland, then twenty-nine years old, received a
grant of one labor of land from the Mexican government under
the provisions of Austin's contract to settle Texas. This
grant was located on the Brazos River in what is now Austin
County.

The Gillelands, Boatwrights, and other members of their
extended family traveled back to Arkansas after 1825 in an
effort to reclaim land that had been taken from them by the
federal government under the terms of a treaty with the
Choctaw Nation in 1825. They returned to Texas in July 1830,
and, by a grant dated on April 1, 1831, Gilleland received
title to a league of land on the west side of the Colorado
River some six miles west of Columbus in Austin's second
colony. 

In the early 1830s Gilleland and his growing family moved
frequently and lived in various parts of Austin's colonies. They
were residing at Moore's Fort at La Grange (later in Fayette
County) in 1831, when their sixth child was born. The following
year found them living in what is now Wharton County near Sarah
Kuykendall, who had been recently widowed. 

In 1833 Gilleland was confronted by a band of hostile
Karankawas, who demanded that he give them a portion of his
corn crop. He stood his ground, forcing the Karankawas to
abandon their attempts to coerce him and retreat to their
camp nearby. He enlisted the aid of his closest neighbors,
tracked the Indians down, and after a brief skirmish left
several of them dead or wounded. By the late 1830s he and
his family had settled in Washington County, where they
remained for most of the decade of the Republic of Texas,
qv. 

See also http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/GG/fgi50.html for an account of the death of Daniel's brother James Gillelleand during a skirmish with a band of Comanche Indians in February, 1839 near Austin, TX.

During this period Gilleland enjoyed a period of relative prosperity, during which he farmed and raised cattle marked with the registered DG brand. The 1840 census indicated that he owned six horses, 150 cattle, 600 acres, and several slaves. As a surveyor he cleared titles and surveyed tracts in return for a portion of the land. One contract dated 1838 called for him to receive 1,000 acres out of a league to be surveyed in Madison County. In 1837 Robert Alexander, qv, a newly arrived Methodist missionary to Texas, held a camp meeting on Caney Creek. A list of subscribers, including Gilleland, pledged to support the first missionary society for the Methodist Episcopal Church in Texas. In February 1838 Martin Ruter, qv, superintendent of Texas missions, preached his first sermon in Fayette County at the house of Daniel Gilleland, who then lived at Moore's Fort, La Grange. Gilleland and R. W. Chappell were founding trustees of the Cedar Creek Methodist Episcopal Church and Camp Grounds, formed in Washington County in 1843.

After spending the early 1840s in Harrison and Montgomery counties, the Gilleland family settled permanently in Milam County in 1847. There, on a homestead on the San Gabriel River, Gilleland spent the remaining twenty-five years of his life growing cotton and other crops and taking an active role in the San Gabriel community and the Methodist Church, qv. He and Precilla had thirteen children, ten of whom survived to adulthood. Before the end of the Civil War, qv, six Gilleland sons served Texas in the Confederate Army; one died in battle under H. H. Sibley, qv, on his western campaign and another died a prisoner of war in a New Orleans hospital. After the war Gilleland signed the list of registered voters in Milam County, stating that he had lived in Texas for forty-five years. Daniel Gilleland died at his home on the San Gabriel River on January 12, 1873, and was buried in the family graveyard there. Precilla Gilleland died there less than four months later and was laid beside her husband. The Gilleland family cemetery was discovered in 1986. It was partially restored in 1987 and was rededicated in October of that year. On October 29, 1988, a Texas historical marker was dedicated near the cemetery in Milam County.

BIBLIOGRAPHY:

Eugene C. Barker, ed., The Austin Papers (3 vols., Washington: GPO, 1924-28).

Eugene C. Barker, The Life of Stephen F. Austin (Nashville: Cokesbury Press, 1925; rpt., Austin: Texas State Historical Association, 1949; New York: AMS Press, 1970).

J. H. Kuykendall, "Reminiscences of Early Texans," Quarterly of the Texas State Historical Association 6-7 (January, April, July 1903).

Worth Stickley Ray, Austin Colony Pioneers (Austin: Jenkins, 1949; 2d ed., Austin: Pemberton, 1970).

Rex W. Strickland, "Miller County, Arkansas Territory," Chronicles of Oklahoma 18 (March 1940).

J. W. Wilbarger, Indian Depredations in Texas (Austin: Hutchings, 1889; rpt., Austin: State House, 1985).

L. Richard Scroggins

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Last Updated: December 4, 2002

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Here's some more on the Gillelands, Kuykendalls, and Boatrights, from

http://www.banderacountycourier.com/texland.htm

New Year Creek
By Lauren Stucky
Special to the Courier
Published Jan. 3, 2008 In early fall of 1821, the Boatwright, Kuykendall, Gilleland, Williams and Gates families - all members of Stephen F. Austin's Old Three Hundred - traveled down Trammel's Trace to Nacogdoches, Texas. In early December, they departed for Austin's colony, and on New Year's Eve 1821, the families used La Bahia Crossing on the Brazos River to enter Austin's Spanish land grant.

The families of Thomas Boatwright and Abner Kuykendall traveled 10 miles west of the crossing and established a settlement on present-day New Year Creek on New Year's Day, 1822. The creek begins two miles south of Gay Hill and runs southeast for 20 miles through Washington County before reaching the Brazos River on the Waller county line.

Boatwright and Kuykendall received their land grants in 1824. Boatwright's land fronted the Brazos River in present-day Austin County. Kuykendall's land was in present-day Fort Bend, Washington and Austin counties.

A few of Kuykendall's contributions to Texas freedom include commanding the militia of Austin's colony; campaigns against the Karankawa, Waco and Tawakoni Indians; patrolling the Old San Antonio Road during the Fredonian Rebellion; leading a scouting expedition; serving as a public official and supervising the building of jail in San Felipe; and assisting Anahuac citizens during the Anahuac Disturbances.

In 1834, Kuykendall was fatally stabbed at San Felipe by Joseph Clayton, whose hanging was probably the first legal execution in Texas. His son, Jonathan Hampton Kuykendall, served as aide and interpreter to General Zachary Taylor in the Mexican War and represented Fayette County in the House of the Sixth Texas Congress (Handbook of Texas Online).


Were the Gillilands part Native American?

Notice that in the account above the extended Gilliland-Boatwright-Kuykendall clan moved from Arkansas to Texas in 1821 -- and then returned to Arkansas for several years, from "after 1825" to 1830 "in an effort to reclaim land that had been taken from them by the federal government under the terms of a treaty with the Choctaw Nation in 1825."

It should be noted that the family's move "from Arkansas to Texas" and the brief return to Arkansas is not as clear as it sounds, because parts of Miller County, Arkansas, where some (but not all) of the family had lived before 1821, were taken over by Texas in 1836. However, that leaves us with the question of how the family became involved in a legal dispute with the US gvernment over land that was affected by a treaty with the Choctaw Indian nation.

The entire text of the treaty is online here:

http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Treaties/TreatyWithTheChoctaw1825.html

Basically, this Choctaw Treaty of 1825 forced the Choctaw Nation to cede to the United States

all that portion of the land [...] lying east of a line beginning on the Arkansas [River], one hundred paces east of Fort Smith [Arkansas], and running thence, due south, to Red river [in Teas]: it being understood that this line shall constitute, and remain, the permanent boundary between the United States and the Choctaws; and the United States agreeing to remove such citizens as may be settled on the west side, to the east side of said line, and prevent future settlements from being made on the west thereof."
Fort Smith is smack-dab on the current border between Arkansas and Oklahoma. Across the border lies the small town of Arkhoma, Oklahoma. The Red River in Texas is due South. In other words, all of the Choctaws located east of that line, in current-day Arkansas, (with the exception of four unnamed Choctaws who were allowed to stay on a reservation of one square mile in Arkansas) lost heir land and had to cross the river and move west into Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) -- and any Anglo Americans located west of that line lost their land in Indian territory and had to move east into Arkansas.

In 1817, Daniel Gilleland was living on Williams Creek, a stream now in Hempstead and Dallas Counties, Arkasas. It is east of Hope, and northeast of Texarkana. I preseme it was named for his mother's second husband, Mr. Williams. By 1821, the family had moved southwest to Old Miller County. If we knew where the Gillilands, Boatwrights, Williams' and Kuykendalls had settled in 1817 and 1821, we could make a better guess as to whether they were Anglos or part-Choctaw, but we don't know that (yet). However, it is worth noting that they returned to "Arkansas," not to "Indian Territory" to try to reclaim their land, that Williams Creek was definitely to the east of the line (in the area that the Choctaws were forced to cede), that Old Miller County was on both sides of the line, and that, in any case, they were unsuccessful in their claim.

We also know that when the Gillilands moved to Texas, their daughter, Mary Gilliland, married a Cherokee man and their granddaughter, Xantippe Slater, married an Irish settler and left Texas, dying en route to the family's destination -- the Choctaw Nation in Indian territory, which is now Oklahoma. Xantippe's Irish husband, Dr. William S. "Barney" Selfridge, settled in the Choctaw Nation and raised his children there, and Xantipe's grand-daughter, Jennie Sefridge, interviewed Choctaw and Chickasaw Indians there for the Federal Writers' Project.

I have talked to at least one descendant of the Texas Gillilands who told me that it was a "pretty well known fact" that his family was "Scots-Irish and Native American ... and a lot of them were alcoholics, too." He is not a descendent of Mary Xantippe Slater or the Cherokee family from which she came, but he too is a descendent of James Gilliland, the Irish American revolutionary soldier who was born in Pennsylvania and died in Virginia.

There is also a contemporary James Gilliland online who makes native American flutes, and says that he is of "Cherokee/Scots-Irish heritage, member of a State recognized Native American Tribe In Alabama":

http://www.jimgillilandflutes.com/bio.htm

So, sometime between the birth of the first American James Gilliland (the Revolutionary War soldier) and the present, there seems to have been at least one marriage -- and maybe more -- between a Gilliland and a woman or women of Choctaw and/or Cherokee descent.

Since so many collateral Gillilands from Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Alabama identify as part Native, the earliest candidate, about whose background nothing is known, might be Susannah / Susanna Young, who married the first James Gilliland.

Nancy Johnson, who married James' son William Gilliland in Virgina in 1792, could have been a Native, because her parents (who were living in Virgina) are not known or named. (One source says Nancy was born in "Coven, Ireland," but that source is riddled with other errors and inconsistencies, and is not reliable. For instance, i find no record of a place called Coven, Ireland.) Nancy and William Gilliland moved to Tennessee with their children. William died in Tennessee in 1800, and Nancy remarried to a Tennessee-born man, Thomas Williams, whose parentage is also unknown. However, along with the rest of the family, Nancy Johnson Gilliland Williams picked up and moved first to Arkansas, and then to Texas, where she died some time after 1850. If Nancy was 100% Native, then Daniel Gilliland was 1/2 Native, his daughter Mary was 1/4 Native, and Xantippe was 5/8 Native.

Another good candidate for being Native or part Native would seem to be Precilla Boatwright (Daniel Gilliland's wife), through her father Thomas Boatwright and/or her mother Amy Rushing. The surname Boatwright does appear on the roles of members of the Choctaw and Cherokee tribes.

Amy Rushing was born about 1775 in Anson County, North Carolina and died before 22 Apr 1839 in Pope County, Arkansas. Her father was Richard RUSHING (1749-1841) and her mother was one of those stone walls in genealogy, Unknown UNKNOWN, born about 1750. (from http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/famgroupsht/sheets/b/b3620001.txt )

Presumeably, unless many people in these families are deluded, some or all of these people were Native or part-Native and claimed to be "white" at the time, as did Xantippe Slater, years later, when dealing with school records and the Federal census -- but the fact remains: The Boatwrights, Gillelands, and Kuykendalls had first relocated from Virgina and North Carolina to Tennessee before 1800, then moved out and resettled well within Arkansas, in what was then Choctaw land. In 1821, due to unknown pressures, they moved south of the Red River, but they later went back north to try to reclaim land that had been taken by the Federal goverment as a result of the Choctaw Treaty of 1825.

The Dawes roll of Native Americans, collected from 1898 to 1914, lists Boatwright as a surname among the Cherokees, the Choctaws, people who wewre Cherokee and Choctaw by intermarriage, and also among Choctaw Freedmen -- that is, Black Choctaws:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ngcrawford/boatright/dawes.html

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ewyatt/FREEDMEN%20SURNAMES/B.html

In fact, there are two men named Thomas Boatwright on the Dawes Roll, -- and, interestingly enough, the Dawes Roll also lists Slater as a name among Cherokee Freedmen, that is Black Cherokees:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ewyatt/FREEDMEN%20SURNAMES/S.html

(The latter might explain why Precilla Boatwright's granddaughter, Mary Gilleland, married Stephen Thoams Slater, the Cherokee.)

All of this is just unsupported speculation, of course, but i find it difficult to come up with another explanation that better fits the scenario, especially when so many descendants of this family, generations downstream, still claim partial Native heritage.


Be that as it may, history now records the family as "Anglo American" and from

http://www.forttours.com/pages/hmmilam.asp#Daniel

comes this information about the historic marker at the burial site of Daniel and Precilla Boatwright Gilleland:

Marker Title: Daniel and Precilla Gilleland
City: Rockdale
County: Milam
Year Marker Erected: 1988
Marker Location: 8 mi. west of Rockdale on FM 487, approx. .2 mi. from
intersection with FM 1600.
Marker Text: Among the first Anglo American settlers to come
to Texas with colonizer Stephen F. Austin, Daniel (b. 1795)
and Precilla Boatwright (b. 1803) Gilleland were members of
Austin's Old Three Hundred colony. The couple and their
infant daughter, along with relatives in the Kuykendall and
Boatwright families, left their homes in Arkansas Territory
and arrived in Texas in December 1821. Making his living as
a farmer, Daniel Gilleland received land grants in present
Colorado and Austin counties. During the 1830s and 1840s the
family moved frequently, farming in Wharton, Fayette,
Washington, Harrison, and Montgomery counties. By 1847 they
had settled in present Milam County. Daniel Gilleland was
instrumental in the growth of the Methodist Church in Texas,
assisting several congregations. He and Precilla were the
parents of thirteen children, three of whom died in
childhood. Six Gilleland sons served in the Confederate
army. The family cemetery (2.8 miles SW) was established in
1848 and serves as the final resting place of Daniel and
Precilla Gilleland, both of whom died in 1873 after more
than 50 years spent as pioneers in Texas. 

One young member of the widespread Gilleland family in Texas, William Gilleland, was captured by Comanche Indians with his sister (probably half-sister or step-sister) Rebecca Jane Fisher when their parents were killed in 1842 near Refugio, Texas. The two were rescued and returned to their family. See

http://www.rra.dst.tx.us/c_t/History1/INDIAN%20CAPTIVES.cfm

This William Gilleland was not a direct Selfridge ancestor but is noted here due to his interesting experiences.


From the Tennessee Kin page at

http://www.tennkin.com/d0/i0002951.htm

comes this detailed genealogy of the Daniel Gilleland and Stephen Thomas Slater families.

Note that although the bulk of the information at this site is the same as can be found elsewhere on the web, the surname spelling Gilliland (with an "i") rather than Gilleland (with an "e") and the repeated mentions of Coven, Ireland as the birthplace for Nancy Johnson, Robert Gilliland, and Daniel Gilliland DO NOT AGREE with information from other web sites, which place the births of both Daniel and his mother Nancy in the state of Virginia. (I can find no record of a place called Coven, Ireland, although i have found on the web that residents of Westport, County Mayo, Ireland are called "Coveys" and used to speak the "Covey dialect".) Nancy Joahnson Silleland is here said to have given birth to her daughter Sarah in Kentucky; the other record places that birth in Arkansas. Also the following record contains an obvious error in that the birth of Stephen D. Slater, the 4th child of Mary Gilleland Slater and Stephen T. Slater, is said to have occured a full 5 days AFTER Mary's death! Still, for what it is worth, here is the record as i found it in the year 2003.

Second Generation 

4. William2 Gilliland (James1) was born PA October 7, 1770.
William died July, 1800 in Nashville, Davidson Co., TN, at
29 years of age.

He married Nancy Johnson in Prince Edward, VA, September 26,
1792. Nancy was born in Coven, Ireland 1773.

At 20 years of age Nancy became the mother of Robert
Gilliland in Coven, Ireland, 1793. [Note by Catherine: They
moved back to Ireland??? I doubt it. I think this is an
error and Robert was born in Virginia.]

At 21 years of age Nancy became the mother of Daniel
Gilliland in Coven, Ireland, June 9, 1795. [Note from
catherine: Again, this seems wrong. Daniel was born in
Virginia.]

At 24 years of age Nancy became the mother of Sarah
Gilliland in Warren Co., KY, December 4, 1797. [Note from
catherine: This is the sister who would later marry Robet
Kuykendall. ]

At 25 years of age Nancy became the mother of James
Gilliland in Warren Co., KY, September 9, 1798.

At 22 years of age William became the father of Robert
Gilliland in Coven, Ireland, 1793.

At 24 years of age William became the father of Daniel
Gilliland in Coven, Ireland, June 9, 1795.

At 27 years of age William became the father of Sarah
Gilliland in Warren Co., KY, December 4, 1797.

At 27 years of age William became the father of James
Gilliland in Warren Co., KY, September 9, 1798.

William Gilliland and Nancy Johnson had the following
children:

15 i. Robert3 Gilliland was born in Coven, Ireland 1793.

+ 16 ii. Daniel Gilliland was born June 9, 1795. [cat's note:
Where?]

17 iii. Sarah Gilliland was born in Warren Co., KY December
4, 1797. Sarah died October 13, 1857 in Tres Palacios,
Matagorda, TX, at 59 years of age. Her body was interred
after October 13, 1857 in Blessing, Matagorda, TX. She
married twice. She married Robert Hardin Kuykendall in
Arkansas Territory, 1814. Robert was born in Princeton, KY
1790. Robert died 1830 in Matagorda, Matagorda Co., TX, at
40 years of age. His body was interred 1830 in Matagorda,
Matagorda Co., TX.

At 26 years of age Robert became the father of Robert
Gilliland Kuykendall in Cadron, Conway Co., AR, 1816. [Note:
Cadron no longer exists except as a crossroads between
Conway, AR and Choctaw, AR.]

At 28 years of age Robert became the father of Mary
Kuykendall in Arkansas Territory, 1818.

At 30 years of age Robert became the father of Jane
Kuykendall in Miller, AR, 1820. [Note: See explanation above
of Old Miller County's placement with respect to current
boundaries between Arkansas and Texas.]

At 32 years of age Robert became the father of Joseph
Kuykendall December, 1822.

At 38 years of age Robert became the father of Albert
Benjamin Kuykendall in Bay Prarie, Wharton Co., TX, January
21, 1829.

At 38 years of age Robert became the father of Thomas
Kuykendall in Bay Prarie, Wharton Co, TX, January 21, 1829.
(See Robert Hardin Kuykendall for the continuation of this
line.) She married Peter Kensie in TX, 1833. (See Peter
Kensie for the continuation of this line.)

At 18 years of age Sarah became the mother of Robert
Gilliland Kuykendall in Cadron, Conway Co., AR, 1816. [Note:
Cadron no longer exists except as a crossroads between
Conway, AR and Choctaw, AR. ]

At 20 years of age Sarah became the mother of Mary
Kuykendall in Arkansas Territory, 1818.

At 22 years of age Sarah became the mother of Jane
Kuykendall in Miller, AR, 1820. At 25 years of age Sarah
became the mother of Joseph Kuykendall December, 1822.
[Note: See explanation above of Old Miller County's
placement with respect to current boundaries between Arkansas
and Texas.]

At 31 years of age Sarah became the mother of Albert
Benjamin Kuykendall in Bay Prarie, Wharton Co., TX, January
21, 1829.

At 31 years of age Sarah became the mother of Thomas
Kuykendall in Bay Prarie, Wharton Co, TX, January 21, 1829.

+ 18 iv. James Gilliland was born September 9, 1798.

Third Generation

16. Daniel3 Gilliland (William2, James1) was born in Coven,
Ireland June 9, 1795. Daniel died January 12, 1873 in Milam
Co., TX, at 77 years of age. His body was interred after
January, 12, 1873 in Milam Co., TX, family cemetery.

He married Precilla Boatwright in Miller, Arkansas
Territory, February 3, 1819. Precilla was born in Illinois
Territory June 20, 1803. Precilla died May 9, 1873 in Milam,
TX, at 69 years of age. Her body was interred after May 9,
1873 in Milam, TX, family cemetery.

At 16 years of age Precilla became the mother of Lewis
Gilliland in Miller, Arkansas Territory, February 7, 1820.
[Note: See explanation above of Old Miller County's
placement with respect to current boundaries between Arkansas
and Texas.]

At 18 years of age Precilla became the mother of Sarah
Gilliland in Miller, Arkansas Territory, October 17, 1821.
[Note: See explanation above of Old Miller County's
placement with respect to current boundaries between Arkansas
and Texas.]

At 20 years of age Precilla became the mother of William
Gilliland in Cedar Creek, Washington Co., TX, October 25,
1823.

At 21 years of age Precilla became the mother of Thomas
Gilliland January 3, 1825.

At 23 years of age Precilla became the mother of Mary
Gilliland January 23, 1827.

At 25 years of age Precilla became the mother of Nancy
Gilliland in Pope, AR, January 19, 1829. [Note: Pope is a
county in central Arkansas; the county seat is 
Russelville.]

At 27 years of age Precilla became the mother of John Henry
Gilliland in Moore's Fort, Fayette Co., TX, January 16,
1831.

At 30 years of age Precilla became the mother of Amy
Gilliland in Washington, TX, January 11, 1834.

At 32 years of age Precilla became the mother of Daniel
Gilliland Jr. in Washington Co., TX, November 11, 1835.

At 24 years of age Daniel became the father of Lewis
Gilliland in Miller, Arkansas Territory, February 7, 1820.
[Note: See explanation above of Old Miller County's
placement with respect to current boundaries between Arkansas
and Texas.]

At 26 years of age Daniel became the father of Sarah
Gilliland in Miller, Arkansas Territory, October 17, 1821.
[Note: See explanation above of Old Miller County's
placement with respect to current boundaries between Arkansas
and Texas.]

At 28 years of age Daniel became the father of William
Gilliland in Cedar Creek, Washington Co., TX, October 25,
1823.

At 29 years of age Daniel became the father of Thomas
Gilliland January 3, 1825.

At 31 years of age Daniel became the father of Mary
Gilliland January 23, 1827.

At 33 years of age Daniel became the father of Nancy
Gilliland in Pope, AR, January 19, 1829. [Note: Pope is a
county in central Arkansas; the county seat is Russelville.]

At 35 years of age Daniel became the father of John Henry
Gilliland in Moore's Fort, Fayette Co., TX, January 16,
1831.

At 38 years of age Daniel became the father of Amy Gilliland
in Washington, TX, January 11, 1834.

At 40 years of age Daniel became the father of Daniel
Gilliland Jr. in Washington Co., TX, November 11, 1835.

Daniel Gilliland and Precilla Boatwright had the following
children:

20 i. Lewis4 Gilliland was born in Miller, Arkansas
Territory February 7, 1820. Lewis died October 15, 1821 at 1
year of age. [Note: See explanation above of Old Miller
County's placement with respect to current boundaries between
Arkansas and Texas.]

21 ii. Sarah Gilliland was born in Miller, Arkansas
Territory October 17, 1821. [Note: See explanation above of
Old Miller County's placement with respect to current
boundaries between Arkansas and Texas.] Sarah died May 13,
1894 at 72 years of age. She married William Gladden Hall in
Washington, TX, May 13, 1837. William was born in Lexington,
Fayette Co., KY June 22, 1808. William died 1891 at 83 years
of age. 

At 30 years of age William became the father of Thomas
Phineas Hall in Bastrop, TX, October, 1838.

At 34 years of age William became the father of Daniel Hall
in TX, 1842.

At 36 years of age William became the father of Mary M. Hall
in TX, 1844.

At 38 years of age William became the father of James M.
Hall 1846.

At 39 years of age William became the father of Samuel A.
Hall February 14, 1848.

At 41 years of age William became the father of William W.
Hall 1849.

At 44 years of age William became the father of Jackson J.
Hall in Milam, TX, 1852.

At 46 years of age William became the father of John R. Hall
1854.

At 47 years of age William became the father of Amanda R.
Hall in TX, 1855.

At 48 years of age William became the father of Cullin Hall
in TX, March 10, 1857.

At 51 years of age William became the father of Annie
Ophelia Hall in TX, 1859. At 55 years of age William became
the father of Mary Hall in TX, 1863. (See William Gladden
Hall for the continuation of this line.)

At 16 years of age Sarah became the mother of Thomas Phineas
Hall in Bastrop, TX, October, 1838.

At 20 years of age Sarah became the mother of Daniel Hall in
TX, 1842.

At 22 years of age Sarah became the mother of Mary M. Hall
in TX, 1844.

At 24 years of age Sarah became the mother of James M. Hall
1846.

At 26 years of age Sarah became the mother of Samuel A. Hall
February 14, 1848.

At 27 years of age Sarah became the mother of William W.
Hall 1849. At 30 years of age Sarah became the mother of
Jackson J. Hall in Milam, TX, 1852.

At 32 years of age Sarah became the mother of John R. Hall
1854.

At 33 years of age Sarah became the mother of Amanda R. Hall
in TX, 1855.

At 35 years of age Sarah became the mother of Cullin Hall in
TX, March 10, 1857.

At 37 years of age Sarah became the mother of Annie Ophelia
Hall in TX, 1859.

At 41 years of age Sarah became the mother of Mary Hall in
TX, 1863.

+ 22 iii. William Gilliland was born October 25, 1823.

23 iv. Thomas Gilliland was born January 3, 1825. Thomas
died December 18, 1848 at 23 years of age.

24 v. Mary Gilliland was born January 23, 1827. Mary died
January 7, 1852 at 24 years of age. She married Stephen
Thomas Slater in Montgomery, TX, November 13, 1843. Stephen
was born in Warren Co., KY 1821.

At 25 years of age Stephen became the father of Eugene
Slater November 18, 1846.

At 26 years of age Stephen became the father of Thomas
Slater June 28, 1848.

At 28 years of age Stephen became the father of Mary
Xantippe Slater March 29, 1850.

At 30 years of age Stephen became the father of Stephen D.
Slater January 12, 1852. (See Stephen Thomas Slater for the
continuation of this line.)

At 19 years of age Mary became the mother of Eugene Slater
November 18, 1846.

At 21 years of age Mary became the mother of Thomas Slater
June 28, 1848.

At 23 years of age Mary became the mother of Mary Xantippe
Slater March 29, 1850.

At 24 years of age Mary became the mother of Stephen D.
Slater January 12, 1852.

[Note from catherine: These dates make no sense: if Mary
Gilleland Slater died on January 7, 1852, she cannot have
become the mother of Stephen D. Slater on January 12, 1852.
It is logical to assume that either a typo has been made and
that Stephen D. Slater was born on January 2 and Mary
Gilleland Slater died on January 7, just 5 days after giving
birth to her 4th child, or that Stephen D. Slater was born
on January 7, when his mother died, and his birth was not
registered until the 12th.]

25 vi. Nancy Gilliland was born in Pope, AR January 19,
1829. [Note: Pope is a county in central Arkansas; the
county seat is Russelville.] Nancy died January 29, 1870 in
Milam, TX, at 41 years of age. Her body was interred after
January 29, 1870 in Hamilton Chapel. She married John
Demostine Anders in Montgomery, TX, January 21, 1845. John
was born in Tuscaloosa, AL 1823. John died 1889 in Milam,
TX, at 66 years of age. At 23 years of age John became the
father of James W. Anders in Montgomery, TX, 1846. At 25
years of age John became the father of Stacey Precilla
Anders in Montgomery, TX, 1848.

At 27 years of age John became the father of Mary Elizabeth
Anders in Montgomery, TX, 1850.

At 29 years of age John became the father of John Cullen
Anders in Milam, TX, July 28, 1852.

At 31 years of age John became the father of Lou Anders in
Milam, TX, 1854.

At 32 years of age John became the father of Charles E.
Anders in Milam, TX, May 16, 1856.

At 35 years of age John became the father of Martha Anders
1858.

At 36 years of age John became the father of Jacob Bolivar
Anders in Milam, TX, August 17, 1859.

At 41 years of age John became the father of Henry M. Anders
1864.

At 43 years of age John became the father of Sue Catherine
Anders in Milam, TX, 1866.

At 55 years of age John became the father of Virgil Daniel
Anders January, 1879. (See John Demostine Anders for the
continuation of this line.)

At 17 years of age Nancy became the mother of James W.
Anders in Montgomery, TX, 1846.

At 19 years of age Nancy became the mother of Stacey
Precilla Anders in Montgomery, TX, 1848.

At 21 years of age Nancy became the mother of Mary Elizabeth
Anders in Montgomery, TX, 1850.

At 23 years of age Nancy became the mother of John Cullen
Anders in Milam, TX, July 28, 1852.

At 25 years of age Nancy became the mother of Lou Anders in
Milam, TX, 1854.

At 27 years of age Nancy became the mother of Charles E.
Anders in Milam, TX, May 16, 1856.

At 29 years of age Nancy became the mother of Martha Anders
1858.

At 30 years of age Nancy became the mother of Jacob Bolivar
Anders in Milam, TX, August 17, 1859.

At 35 years of age Nancy became the mother of Henry M.
Anders 1864.

At 37 years of age Nancy became the mother of Sue Catherine
Anders in Milam, TX, 1866.

At 49 years of age Nancy became the mother of Virgil Daniel
Anders January, 1879.

   + 26 vii. John Henry Gilliland was born January 16, 1831. 

   27 viii. Amy Gilliland was born in Washington, TX January 11, 1834. 
   Amy died July 7, 1937 at 103 years of age. 

   + 28 ix. Daniel Gilliland Jr. was born November 11, 1835. 
     

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Buddhism: avidyana buddhism
Ignorance: ignorance
Superstition: superstition, hogwash, etc.